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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #345 on: July 22, 2017, 11:10:26 PM »
Eh. We'll have better means of transportation then.
Will the eagles have a first class cabin?
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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #347 on: July 23, 2017, 08:11:54 AM »
https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/el-al-looks-to-the-future/
To me the main takeaway here: "The new Business-Class cabin will feature two-meter-long lie-flat seats by Recaro in a 1-2-1 configuration; the company is still debating whether this should also be installed in the existing Boeing 777 fleet."

I find it very surprising given the cost of these seats. But who knows

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #348 on: July 23, 2017, 08:59:14 AM »
To me the main takeaway here: "The new Business-Class cabin will feature two-meter-long lie-flat seats by Recaro in a 1-2-1 configuration; the company is still debating whether this should also be installed in the existing Boeing 777 fleet."

I find it very surprising given the cost of these seats. But who knows

I'm very doubtful about this, but perhaps they can find a way to retrofit newer seats that aren't necessarily of the same caliber.

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #349 on: July 23, 2017, 12:25:55 PM »
I'm very doubtful about this, but perhaps they can find a way to retrofit newer seats that aren't necessarily of the same caliber.
Fine with me  ;D

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #350 on: July 23, 2017, 01:44:33 PM »
To me the main takeaway here: "The new Business-Class cabin will feature two-meter-long lie-flat seats by Recaro in a 1-2-1 configuration; the company is still debating whether this should also be installed in the existing Boeing 777 fleet."

I find it very surprising given the cost of these seats. But who knows
I guess you know the costs of those seats can  you give me an idea how much they cost? I would think max 6k per seat is that is expensive to retrofit the existing fleets. Considering they can be xfered to the 787s when they are ready to roll.
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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #351 on: July 23, 2017, 01:59:26 PM »
I guess you know the costs of those seats can  you give me an idea how much they cost? I would think max 6k per seat is that is expensive to retrofit the existing fleets. Considering they can be xfered to the 787s when they are ready to roll.

When AF launched their new dreamliner, they talked about each Zodiac seat in J costing over $60k each - not sure how Recaro compares, but id assume it can't be that far?

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #352 on: July 23, 2017, 02:32:33 PM »
I guess you know the costs of those seats can  you give me an idea how much they cost? I would think max 6k per seat is that is expensive to retrofit the existing fleets. Considering they can be xfered to the 787s when they are ready to roll.
At $6K per seat I think you'll have a line that spans around the globe to get them (or not necessarily, as it would be too good to be true).

I've seen all kinds of numbers around but 6k doesn't even scratch the surface.

It might not be as extreme as they state here, unless you're talking first class, but it might be a little eye opening to watch https://www.nytimes.com/video/business/100000002321703/the-secret-life-of-business-class-seats.html, also available here.
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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #353 on: July 23, 2017, 03:49:29 PM »
At $6K per seat I think you'll have a line that spans around the globe to get them (or not necessarily, as it would be too good to be true).

I've seen all kinds of numbers around but 6k doesn't even scratch the surface.

It might not be as extreme as they state here, unless you're talking first class, but it might be a little eye opening to watch https://www.nytimes.com/video/business/100000002321703/the-secret-life-of-business-class-seats.html, also available here.
Wow interesting but makes 0 sense. The only explanation I can think of is that there aren't much manufacturers for airline seats hence giving the companies the opportunity to charge skyrocketing prices.   There is no way to explain even using the fanciest language why a first class seat should cost 300k

Anyone wants to open airplane seat manufacturing business?   
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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #354 on: July 23, 2017, 04:06:22 PM »
Wow interesting but makes 0 sense. The only explanation I can think of is that there aren't much manufacturers for airline seats hence giving the companies the opportunity to charge skyrocketing prices.   There is no way to explain even using the fanciest language why a first class seat should cost 300k

Anyone wants to open airplane seat manufacturing business?   
Did you watch the video? These things need to be built to take serious abuse, minimize weight, take into account safety issues, etc. etc. and currently demand seems to be outstripping supply, resulting in delayed deliveries!
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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #355 on: July 23, 2017, 10:27:28 PM »
And don't forget you need to own a patent

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #357 on: July 25, 2017, 04:45:56 PM »
Nice Google sheet to follow all Boeing test flights.
4X-EDA completed a test flight today
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xPZP2NmigprVBd5dklYcFOGraAn4C8Z4W0z2TPD-eD0/edit#gid=0

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #358 on: August 02, 2017, 10:04:14 PM »
That's awesome. I'm flying next week let's try Fleish Cholent mit Kishka

Did you try this?

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #359 on: August 03, 2017, 09:26:45 AM »
Inaugural flight to EWR was moved up from October 29 to October 17 (Mon night after Succos).
Anyone here booked for Succos that will be giving the first TR?