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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #520 on: November 06, 2017, 03:28:47 PM »
I thought they only had 2 total and 1 of those was going to LHR?
Both are going to LHR/EWR

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #521 on: November 06, 2017, 03:41:14 PM »
I thought they only had 2 total and 1 of those was going to LHR?
It's arriving in TLV in the morning then does a RT LHR and to EWR, was discussed upthread

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #522 on: November 06, 2017, 04:41:01 PM »
If they only have 1 Dreamliner going between TLV and EWR, does that mean the 787 is only on alternate days from Newark?
they have 2 already so they have it every night
I thought they only had 2 total and 1 of those was going to LHR?
Both are going to LHR/EWR
It's arriving in TLV in the morning then does a RT LHR and to EWR, was discussed upthread

Here:

Let's try to explain how scheduling works for some who seem a bit confused.
We have 2 aircrafts:
Aircraft 1:
Departs to Newark Motzei Shabbos and arrives at 5:40am
Departs Newark at 1:30pm and arrives in TLV at 7:10am Monday morning.
It then departs at 10:15am to LHR, and leaves LHR at 3:25pm arriving in TLV about 10:15pm on Monday evening.
It then sets out to EWR again at 12:30am to arrive in EWR Tuesday morning at 5:50am
And so on....

Aircraft 2:
Departs TLV to LHR on Sunday at 10:15am and is back in TLV at 10:15pm so that it can head out to Newark for the Sunday night 12:30am flight, because the aircraft that flew to Newark Motzei Shabbos still hasn't returned and will only be arriving in TLV at 7:10am the following morning.
Then arrives back in TLV early Tuesday morning and does the Tuesday route to London, since the aircraft that did it Monday is now enroute to EWR
And so on.....
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #523 on: November 06, 2017, 04:54:59 PM »
Here:
This sounds destined to fail spectacularly. Now there's a whole ripple affect if a delay happens on 1 of the 4 legs in the cycle. Especially once Northeast snow season starts.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #524 on: November 06, 2017, 05:04:34 PM »
This sounds destined to fail spectacularly. Now there's a whole ripple affect if a delay happens on 1 of the 4 legs in the cycle. Especially once Northeast snow season starts.
They're not the first airline that thought of this, actually most planes in the sky operate on such a schedule and even if there's let's say a 2 hour delay in EWR the TLV-LHR flight will still be on time.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #525 on: November 06, 2017, 05:07:55 PM »
There not the first airline that thought of this, actually most planes in the sky operate on such a schedule.
Yes, but if one flight on a larger airline is delayed, it's easy to get a replacement plane. Right now, Ly has exactly 2 planes like this. They're going to either have delays, or upset customers on a 777.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #526 on: November 06, 2017, 05:11:51 PM »
even if there's let's say a 2 hour delay in EWR the TLV-LHR flight will still be on time.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #527 on: November 06, 2017, 05:14:18 PM »
Yes, but if one flight on a larger airline is delayed, it's easy to get a replacement plane. Right now, Ly has exactly 2 planes like this. They're going to either have delays, or upset customers on a 777.
That's not something an economy customer has the right to get upset about

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #528 on: November 06, 2017, 05:17:05 PM »
Yes, but if one flight on a larger airline is delayed, it's easy to get a replacement plane. Right now, Ly has exactly 2 planes like this. They're going to either have delays, or upset customers on a 777.
I'm sure everyone who has been delayed for hours due to weather halfway across the country can back you up on that.
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #529 on: November 06, 2017, 05:17:41 PM »
That's not something an economy customer has the right to get upset about
What about the others?
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #530 on: November 06, 2017, 06:57:13 PM »
Yes, but if one flight on a larger airline is delayed, it's easy to get a replacement plane. Right now, Ly has exactly 2 planes like this. They're going to either have delays, or upset customers on a 777.
Umm, every airline operates so, and every airline suffers from ripple effects. What I don't understand the first week when the 787 broke down and they put back the 777 on Thursday they delayed the EWR flight till 7pm and the plane was sitting in EWR from 6am. Did they need the same crew to so the return? 777/787 share a type rating

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #531 on: November 06, 2017, 07:03:03 PM »

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #532 on: November 06, 2017, 07:54:23 PM »
DDMS picked up on TPG
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/11/el-al-more-dreamliner-routes/
Really the HT for all this should go to me  >:( I reported this 20 days ago already.

JFK service starting Jun 29. Departing TLV 10:40am flight returning 6pm from JFK. Second JFK flight (4pm from TLV) switches over to 787-9 Sep 16.
As of now, LY 1 will be the last NYC flight to switch over (so far not on schedule for the upcoming 12 months)

Whats going on with LY to London? it looks like soon they're pulling the 787 from that route and making THREE! daily flights to LTN with a 737.

An insight here?

The change comes at the end of March, the day after El Al is starting 787 service to HKG. So I guess that answers your question.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #533 on: November 06, 2017, 09:11:30 PM »
Who cares how cramped the aisle is?
I've had 2 clients complaining about this exact issue this week.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #534 on: November 06, 2017, 09:25:20 PM »
I've had 2 clients complaining about this exact issue this week.
Sort of like an apartment with low ceilings even though your head still has a few inches of clearance.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #535 on: November 07, 2017, 12:53:15 PM »
can gold+ choose PE seats on the tlv-ewr route?

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #536 on: November 07, 2017, 12:58:08 PM »
can gold+ choose PE seats on the tlv-ewr route?
No

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #537 on: November 08, 2017, 03:29:42 PM »

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #538 on: November 08, 2017, 04:05:54 PM »

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #539 on: November 08, 2017, 04:14:10 PM »
Does that mean the BOS route will be ending soon? ;)

Yes