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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #825 on: May 28, 2018, 03:42:46 PM »
Some הערות on the DDMS post:
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El Al has been flying 2 daily 787 flights between Newark and Tel Aviv since March 25. This will decrease to 1 daily flight on October 28. That may be added back next year, but so far El Al is selling seats for just one daily flight through the end of scheduling next April.
As mentioned above, for the winter they officially switched the second EWR flight to 3 times weekly (some weeks have more) on a 772. I just noticed that the blocked availability for the second daily flight and is currently marked in the GDS as "subject to government approval".

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And sure enough, El Al has cancelled their plans to start the route in November.
As I've said earlier, UA is back on the 788 by the time November comes around. So perhaps it's not the 77W that blew them away (probably just lack of sales)

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They say that they will start it in May, but they are not currently selling any seats on the route.
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They are selling seats starting May 13

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El Al plans to maintain the same old 767s on their Boston and Toronto routes for the foreseeable future.
Most likely waiting for the 787-8 deliveries to replace them (especially YYZ where AC puts them to shame)

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how much can El Al cut and still charge a major premium above the low cost carriers flying to Europe?
Under the new "Fly Your Way" system with branded fares, they are changing a lot to compete with the LCC, but it's nearly impossible for a legacy carrier to fully compete with the "ULCC". One example is the allowance of one-way flights to Europe. And btw, many European airlines have completely cut meals on the TLV routes like LO or SN to name a couple. Last year I flew AB JFK-TLV and on the 5 hr flight from TXL to TLV, I needed to pay 3 EUR for a drink of water.

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Aside from massive labor costs, one of El Alís major problem is that they have failed to cultivate meaningful airline partnerships. That means that while United can feed passengers to their Newark and San Francisco flights from across their network, El Al is nearly entirely reliant on nonstop traffic.
#fakenews
El Al partners (in North America) with AS/VX, AA, B6, WS, PD (and more) which gets them pretty much anywhere across America.

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El Alís website is one of the worst in the industry
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I spend much more time on their site then you. It's been upgraded a lot in recent months/years.

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El Al still doesnít have WiFi on their longhaul planesÖ
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A real shame. But it's coming shortly. If only more airlines would make this a priority. I just flew AC to TLV and they didn't either have wifi installed on the long-haul flight (787)

From the comments: https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/airline-news/el-al-new-787-routes-route-launch-cancellation-end-747-first-class-dates-sandwiches-instead-meals-fix-ails/#comment-1356852
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Regardless, where is a US credit card?
How many non-US carriers do you know that have a US credit card?!?

But you also should mention the shameful price increases that have been nonstop since they launched the Dreamliner! The base fares on all cabins to the US have skyrocketed in the past few months especially PE. They also just recently increased the changes/refunds fees rates for the first time in many years.
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #826 on: May 28, 2018, 03:51:19 PM »
Im really hoping ELAL begins allowing one-way travel. They were testing it a few months ago, but that seemed to have ended

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #827 on: June 04, 2018, 04:10:26 PM »
Are there bassinets in the PE section? Anyone have actual experience with this?

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #828 on: June 05, 2018, 07:04:23 AM »
Are there bassinets in the PE section? Anyone have actual experience with this?
Don't have personal experience. But there are bassinets in PE.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #829 on: June 05, 2018, 07:15:03 AM »
Are there bassinets in the PE section? Anyone have actual experience with this?
Yes. I used a bassinet in PE last week

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #830 on: June 05, 2018, 02:25:52 PM »
what are the dreamliners routes to and from tlv-ewr?

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #831 on: June 05, 2018, 03:04:21 PM »
what are the dreamliners routes to and from tlv-ewr?
Want to be a little clearer?

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #832 on: June 06, 2018, 07:28:14 AM »
Want to be a little clearer?
Does elal have flights every day of the week with their dreamliner? if yes whats time (since they fly more then one flight a day)? clear enough? in short, i wanna book a flight and wanna know if its with their dreamliner.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #833 on: June 06, 2018, 07:31:09 AM »
Does elal have flights every day of the week with their dreamliner? if yes whats time (since they fly more then one flight a day)? clear enough? in short, i wanna book a flight and wanna know if its with their dreamliner.

EWR is all dreamliner.

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #834 on: June 06, 2018, 07:33:43 AM »

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #835 on: June 06, 2018, 07:48:51 AM »
Does elal have flights every day of the week with their dreamliner? if yes whats time (since they fly more then one flight a day)? clear enough? in short, i wanna book a flight and wanna know if its with their dreamliner.
EWR is all dreamliner.
not true
Out of Newark is all Dreamliner besides for Motzei Shabbos. (For this season, at least. For a later season, please specify)

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #836 on: June 06, 2018, 07:56:05 AM »
Btw, as of now, LY will continue flying the 747 on LY1 to JFK through Mar 31 (not the 777 as previously scheduled)

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #837 on: June 06, 2018, 08:50:46 AM »
Yes. I used a bassinet in PE last week
Thanx!

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #838 on: June 06, 2018, 11:27:39 AM »
Out of Newark is all Dreamliner besides for Motzei Shabbos. (For this season, at least. For a later season, please specify)

I stand corrected :)

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #839 on: June 10, 2018, 01:49:04 PM »
I stand corrected :)
How about for september? and from israel to nyc?