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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #280 on: April 30, 2017, 08:47:59 AM »
Haddar is definitely NOT Kedem brand. The two owners despise each other.
Haddar was bought by Kedem

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #281 on: April 30, 2017, 11:08:31 AM »
After pesach Bingo stopped his practice of giving stuff at less then his wholesale price, he is now going to sell at least for cost or minimum markup

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #282 on: April 30, 2017, 11:32:17 AM »
After pesach Bingo stopped his practice of giving stuff at less then his wholesale price, he is now going to sell at least for cost or minimum markup
But he should at least be a few cents cheaper then other groceries.

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #283 on: April 30, 2017, 11:32:32 AM »
Haddar is definitely NOT Kedem brand. The two owners despise each other.
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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #284 on: April 30, 2017, 11:32:54 AM »
Are you saying this from knowledge or did you simply fall for their motto?
Which part?

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #285 on: April 30, 2017, 11:34:17 AM »
Which part?
That mehadrin put pressure on them other than not giving them a lower price.
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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #286 on: April 30, 2017, 11:36:13 AM »
But he should at least be a few cents cheaper then other groceries.
I'm sure they will

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #287 on: April 30, 2017, 11:38:06 AM »
That mehadrin put pressure on them other than not giving them a lower price.
That's what I heard. + This seems to be the only reason that can make sense, why he's not even a few cents cheaper then my local grocery?

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #288 on: April 30, 2017, 11:45:33 AM »
Haddar is definitely NOT Kedem brand. The two owners despise each other.
Hadar has been kedem for quite some time already. Until last year kedem had a monopoly on retail kosher grape juice. All brands are either owned by them (IE: Hadar) , copacked by them or they sold concentrate ( IE: natures own). Last year Welch's/Manishewitz began their own line and this year Natures own began purchasing concentrate from someone else.

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #289 on: April 30, 2017, 01:12:04 PM »
But he should at least be a few cents cheaper then other groceries.
Bingo went up in price with a lot of products like the taster's choice coffee before pasach it was $4.49 now $5.99 by rosner's grocery you could still get it for $ $4.99

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #290 on: April 30, 2017, 02:18:41 PM »
Hadar has been kedem for quite some time already. Until last year kedem had a monopoly on retail kosher grape juice. All brands are either owned by them (IE: Hadar) , copacked by them or they sold concentrate ( IE: natures own). Last year Welch's/Manishewitz began their own line and this year Natures own began purchasing concentrate from someone else.
But no chance that the FTC gets involved from an antitrust perspective, as the kosher market is just a small segment. There a plenty of wine companies out there, etc. etc. etc. The fact that the Herzog clan controls the kosher wine market (and through other subsidiaries such as Medek, etc. try to control other markets) probably doesn't reach the FTC antitrust radar screen.

I recall when Kedem first branched off into Haddar's territory (IIRC it was the Geffen brand that they started with). The owner of Haddar at the time got so upset, he tried to go into the wine business in retaliation (and IIRC he claimed that only his mevushal wine is mevushal according to all shittos, while Kedem wines are mevushal by pasteurization which some opinions don't accept). Well, we all know how that ended. I doubt anyone even remembers what brand name he used (I don't).
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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #291 on: April 30, 2017, 02:25:04 PM »
But no chance that the FTC gets involved from an antitrust perspective, as the kosher market is just a small segment. There a plenty of wine companies out there, etc. etc. etc. The fact that the Herzog clan controls the kosher wine market (and through other subsidiaries such as Medek, etc. try to control other markets) probably doesn't reach the FTC antitrust radar screen.

I recall when Kedem first branched off into Haddar's territory (IIRC it was the Geffen brand that they started with). The owner of Haddar at the time got so upset, he tried to go into the wine business in retaliation (and IIRC he claimed that only his mevushal wine is mevushal according to all shittos, while Kedem wines are mevushal by pasteurization which some opinions don't accept). Well, we all know how that ended. I doubt anyone even remembers what brand name he used (I don't).
IIRC it was the other way around that Hadar stated with grape juice and then they opened Gefen. The Hadar wines were called Hadar.
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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #292 on: April 30, 2017, 02:47:13 PM »
IIRC it was the other way around that Hadar stated with grape juice and then they opened Gefen. The Hadar wines were called Hadar.

At the time I was working for relatives of the owner of Haddar, and occasionally did some work for the owner of Haddar, so I report the story as I heard it back then from the owner.
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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #293 on: April 30, 2017, 02:49:01 PM »
IIRC it was the other way around that Hadar stated with grape juice and then they opened Gefen. The Hadar wines were called Hadar.
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Gefen didn't want a competition in the grape juice/wine market, so they threatened haddar, that if you make grape juice, we'll make products, & that was when Gefen was born.

Shame that kedem won the fight, & they stayed with the Monopoly.

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #294 on: April 30, 2017, 02:52:09 PM »
That's what I heard. + This seems to be the only reason that can make sense, why he's not even a few cents cheaper then my local grocery?
1. It's illegal. 2. This is Bingo101, they're unbeatable in the beginning and then gradually become cheap on some items and normal price on other items.
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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #295 on: April 30, 2017, 02:52:12 PM »
That's what I heard. + This seems to be the only reason that can make sense, why he's not even a few cents cheaper then my local grocery?
Of course they are claiming pressure. That pressure can consist of not giving a lower price.
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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #296 on: April 30, 2017, 02:52:49 PM »
But no chance that the FTC gets involved from an antitrust perspective, as the kosher market is just a small segment. There a plenty of wine companies out there, etc. etc. etc. The fact that the Herzog clan controls the kosher wine market (and through other subsidiaries such as Medek, etc. try to control other markets) probably doesn't reach the FTC antitrust radar screen.

I recall when Kedem first branched off into Haddar's territory (IIRC it was the Geffen brand that they started with). The owner of Haddar at the time got so upset, he tried to go into the wine business in retaliation (and IIRC he claimed that only his mevushal wine is mevushal according to all shittos, while Kedem wines are mevushal by pasteurization which some opinions don't accept). Well, we all know how that ended. I doubt anyone even remembers what brand name he used (I don't).
Every new brand of wine coming in to the USA, kedem is there. They saw that Or Hagunoz wine is good going, so they bought off the importing/distribution of the USA, as not to leave any space for a competitor....

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #297 on: April 30, 2017, 02:53:52 PM »
1. It's illegal. 2. This is Bingo101, they're unbeatable in the beginning and then gradually become cheap on some items and normal price on other items.
What's illegal?
All wholesale clubs are illegal?

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #298 on: April 30, 2017, 02:54:08 PM »
Of course they are claiming pressure. That pressure can consist of not giving a lower price.
Please explain?
Even if they don't get a lower price then other groceries, they should sell for example few cents cheaper, as they are here for quantity...

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Re: Bingo wholesale club in Brooklyn
« Reply #299 on: April 30, 2017, 02:54:15 PM »
Haddar was bought by Kedem
Really? When?
I have a hard time believing that.
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