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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2017, 05:07:14 PM »
As anyone here long enough has seen, I am typically a hardliner about these things but in this case, while I wouldn't go ahead and give it to someone, I don't see the big deal as long as they do not distort the actual hagadah. It is not unprecedented to use non-jewish themes as a mashal to help understand Jewish concepts. I find the idea somewhat distasteful but not worth the fuss being made here.
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2017, 05:28:57 PM »
Don't know how this is all relevant to the convo. So because Bais Hillel made Torah more accessible that means you can mix in the new testament as well and that's fine?
not my point though i clearly did go off on a tangent (sorry). dont use the new testament, but to explain things to people its always best to explain in terms they understand, and if they dont have the tools to understand on a brisker derech torah level, maybe they can get it from an example in a harry potter story that had a similar point. I happen to have never read any of the books and only saw parts of the first movie, but i have frum friends who were shtark potter fans and they said there were lots of good lessons in it. its not any sort of religion, its just fiction and its not steeped in some sort of assur philosophy that we cant use to help people understand the hagadah with. I have no idea how this rabbi will bring it together, and maybe i will hate it, its not for me or whatever. but why attack everything as assur that isnt our wavelength and compare it to catholicism?
I personally dont like certain emuna books, and find those to also be silly and use recycled goyish stories that are not real. while i used to diss it in the past, i found out that my mom and several friends love them and really do gain something from them. they may drive me nuts, but they help others, and i need to learn to not diss what works for other people to get closer to god.
There, i got off on another tangent. oy  ;D

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2017, 05:42:09 PM »
As anyone here long enough has seen, I am typically a hardliner about these things but in this case, while I wouldn't go ahead and give it to someone, I don't see the big deal as long as they do not distort the actual hagadah. It is not unprecedented to use non-jewish themes as a mashal to help understand Jewish concepts. I find the idea somewhat distasteful but not worth the fuss being made here.

Based on this thread I went to Amazon expecting something far worse than what I read in the sample pages. I'm wondering if perhaps the naysayers are referring to the "wizardry and magic" of Harry Potter itself rather than using pop culture  as a moshul for themes in yetzias mitzrayim? It's hard to know, seeing as they haven't really spelled out the issue with it being on DDMS

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2017, 06:14:30 PM »
Based on this thread I went to Amazon expecting something far worse than what I read in the sample pages. I'm wondering if perhaps the naysayers are referring to the "wizardry and magic" of Harry Potter itself rather than using pop culture  as a moshul for themes in yetzias mitzrayim? It's hard to know, seeing as they haven't really spelled out the issue with it being on DDMS
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2017, 06:16:02 PM »
I want to put the greatest possible distance between myself and the troll here, but I'll try to take a few minutes later to explain it

lol. I think if you punctuate you should be fine.
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2017, 06:22:57 PM »
lol. I think if you punctuate you should be fine.
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2017, 09:17:59 AM »
Lets look at it this way, Dan is a Yehiva boy and there are many many many frum followers of his posts, this particular item is not on cord with who he is and what we as his readers expect to find here

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2017, 09:18:45 AM »
Lets look at it this way, Dan is a Yehiva boy and there are many many many frum followers of his posts, this particular item is not on cord with who he is and what we as his readers expect to find here

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2017, 09:32:03 AM »
Lets look at it this way, Dan is a Yehiva boy and there are many many many frum followers of his posts, this particular item is not on cord with who he is and what we as his readers expect to find here
if you are so "frum" that you can't handle seeing this than you probably shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.

This is Dans "deals" not Dans Yeshiva. Some people might want to buy this and are happy to save some money. If you don't want to buy it than Don't buy it. I don't think anyone will go off the derech because they bought a Haggadah from Dans deals that has Harry Potter connected to it.

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #54 on: March 28, 2017, 09:37:30 AM »
I don't think anyone will go off the derech because they bought a Haggadah from Dans deals that has Harry Potter connected to it.
If they do then they have bigger problems than this.
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #55 on: March 28, 2017, 10:00:54 AM »
And the bein hazmanim guys reappear
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #56 on: March 28, 2017, 10:04:04 AM »
I don't get why this thread is soo active? If you like it, then good. If not, move on! It's not your website!

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #57 on: March 28, 2017, 10:09:06 AM »
I don't get why this thread is soo active? If you like it, then good. If not, move on! It's not your website!

I'm wondering the same thing... :o
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #58 on: March 28, 2017, 10:24:01 AM »
if you are so "frum" that you can't handle seeing this than you probably shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.
That argument is weaker than Dans pitching arm.
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I don't think anyone will go off the derech because they bought a Haggadah from Dans deals that has Harry Potter connected to it.
Cue the story of Elisha ben Abuyah/Acher
If they do then they have bigger problems than this.
You should prob stay out of this one ( not that we expect factually correct info from you either way.)











I dont actually give many darns about this, just particularly bored right now.

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #59 on: March 28, 2017, 10:41:06 AM »
just particularly bored right now.
I can see that