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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2017, 02:50:56 PM »
At least he posted in the deals section so we can post pad   8)
You just had to say something.  >:(
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2017, 02:50:59 PM »
But he did engage JJ, and that's because my concern is legitimate.

Aren't you the one who wrote "There are a few types of deals and disclaimers we add when it's borderline.." - In that spirit, this is borderline leaning over the border.
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2017, 02:52:11 PM »
You just had to say something.  >:(

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2017, 02:52:32 PM »
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2017, 02:53:16 PM »
Thx JJ, keep posting deals like this. i ordered it, will get my kids to actually get excited and read about the hagadah on the plane ride to israel so they will actually understand lots of concepts they prob wont think about until the seder when they are bombed. there are paralells in everything we do and learn between torah and the outside world, and understanding and thinking them through internalizes things and also helps you interact and teach torah lessons to those not immersed in torah.

R Shlomo said we will see mashiach when jews start worrying about their own bein adom lemakom rather than yenem's bein adom lemakom.

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2017, 02:53:32 PM »
trying to keep you around a little longer
Get your forks ready!  :)
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2017, 02:56:27 PM »
Correction it was Chava who invented that:  וַתֹּאמֶר הָאִשָּׁה אֶל הַנָּחָשׁ מִפְּרִי עֵץ הַגָּן נֹאכֵל. ג וּמִפְּרִי הָעֵץ אֲשֶׁר בְּתוֹךְ הַגָּן אָמַר אֱלֹהִים לֹא תֹאכְלוּ מִמֶּנּוּ וְלֹא תִגְּעוּ בּוֹ פֶּן תְּמֻתוּן

By the way according to the Medrash you are wrong it was Adam who told Chava not to touch it

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2017, 03:59:23 PM »
Call me old fashioned, but I don't think it's appropriate.
It's like showing the Ten Commandments to teach someone about Judaism.
Better to be an ignorant tinok shenishba than a misinformed know-it-all.

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2017, 04:03:33 PM »
Call me old fashioned, but I don't think it's appropriate.
It's like showing the Ten Commandments to teach someone about Judaism.
Better to be an ignorant tinok shenishba than a misinformed know-it-all.
Thx Beit Shammai.
Note to self: Halacha K'beis hillel. 
I still love u (just fooling) but you are old fashioned :)

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2017, 04:10:53 PM »
Thx Beit Shammai.
Note to self: Halacha K'beis hillel. 
I still love u (just fooling) but you are old fashioned :)

It's not about machmir or meikil (don't know where you saw that in my comment).
It's about teaching someone the wrong way. 2 x 2 = 5.
I think mixing in the wrong ideas is worse than being ignorant.

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2017, 04:36:35 PM »
It's not about machmir or meikil (don't know where you saw that in my comment).
It's about teaching someone the wrong way. 2 x 2 = 5.
I think mixing in the wrong ideas is worse than being ignorant.
My point is not machmir or meikel (and i dont believe batei shammai or hillel were focused on machmir meikel as seen in several strange machloksim where they go opposite ways, though perhaps there was some subconscious thing there generally). when people who werent hardcore and werent ready to take all of torah on came to Shammai, he slapped them upside the head and said get out (perhaps thinking better if they stay ignorant as u suggest). Hillel played it way differently, giving all of torah on one feet (even less than the big 10!) and taking on a guy who would not accept torah shebeal peh and bringing him around. perhaps these guys did aveiros after and werent perfect jews, but each mitzvah matters and the aveiros would have happened anyway. Like the Rebbe z'tl said in his first piece on Pirkei Avos, "Kol yisroel yesh lahem chelek "Le"Olam habah", not Beolam haba but Leolam haba, bc even the sinners have a purpopse and every little thing they can learn and incorporate into their lives fixes our world and brings us to the perfection to come.

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2017, 04:39:18 PM »
My point is not machmir or meikel (and i dont believe batei shammai or hillel were focused on machmir meikel as seen in several strange machloksim where they go opposite ways, though perhaps there was some subconscious thing there generally). when people who werent hardcore and werent ready to take all of torah on came to Shammai, he slapped them upside the head and said get out (perhaps thinking better if they stay ignorant as u suggest). Hillel played it way differently, giving all of torah on one feet (even less than the big 10!) and taking on a guy who would not accept torah shebeal peh and bringing him around. perhaps these guys did aveiros after and werent perfect jews, but each mitzvah matters and the aveiros would have happened anyway. Like the Rebbe z'tl said in his first piece on Pirkei Avos, "Kol yisroel yesh lahem chelek "Le"Olam habah", not Beolam haba but Leolam haba, bc even the sinners have a purpopse and every little thing they can learn and incorporate into their lives fixes our world and brings us to the perfection to come.

דחפו באמת הבנין is more like "he shoved him with a 10-foot-pole".
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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2017, 04:42:50 PM »
דחפו באמת הבנין is more like "he shoved him with a 10-foot-pole".
agreed :)

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2017, 04:46:45 PM »
My point is not machmir or meikel (and i dont believe batei shammai or hillel were focused on machmir meikel as seen in several strange machloksim where they go opposite ways, though perhaps there was some subconscious thing there generally). when people who werent hardcore and werent ready to take all of torah on came to Shammai, he slapped them upside the head and said get out (perhaps thinking better if they stay ignorant as u suggest). Hillel played it way differently, giving all of torah on one feet (even less than the big 10!) and taking on a guy who would not accept torah shebeal peh and bringing him around. perhaps these guys did aveiros after and werent perfect jews, but each mitzvah matters and the aveiros would have happened anyway. Like the Rebbe z'tl said in his first piece on Pirkei Avos, "Kol yisroel yesh lahem chelek "Le"Olam habah", not Beolam haba but Leolam haba, bc even the sinners have a purpopse and every little thing they can learn and incorporate into their lives fixes our world and brings us to the perfection to come.

Don't know how this is all relevant to the convo. So because Bais Hillel made Torah more accessible that means you can mix in the new testament as well and that's fine?

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Re: Hogwarts hagadah on ddms
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2017, 05:04:54 PM »
I decided to take a look at it on Amazon. I'm horrified.
I'm not debating the posting of the deal, just the book itself.

If you can justify this hagaddah, then you are a problem as well, even if you don't realize it.  Veit farkruchen.

Oy. I'm being harsh.