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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #195 on: April 04, 2017, 06:28:39 PM »
100% I completely acknowledge that this is a personal feeling I have towards this idea and I do happen to share it with some others here. I have nothing against anyone who goes, nor would I judge them, but the argument I was having was with regards to the ones who seemed to put down those of us who were not fans of the idea.

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Because IMO it would be silly for any one side or the other to completely disagree with opposite side.
There are good and bad to both. And if you can't appreciate what the other sides sees in what they choose to do and they can't appreciate why you choose what you do then I feel like someone isn't being honest with themselves.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #196 on: April 04, 2017, 06:28:43 PM »
This reminds me of the conversation I had with people who are debating whether the CPA exam or Bar exam is harder. I ask, have you taken both? The answer is almost always "no" but they are still sure of themselves.
They heard from their friends and family.


Regarding teaching children, they are well aware of the costs of going away and cleaning work they are missing.  I remind them of the cost and their friends remind them of how hard they are working.


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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #197 on: April 04, 2017, 06:29:58 PM »
This reminds me of the conversation I had with people who are debating whether the CPA exam or Bar exam is harder. I ask, have you taken both? The answer is almost always "no" but they are still sure of themselves.
Let me ask you this. Did you live through the depression? If not do you think you could fully understand it? Do you think you would better understand it by spending a week at some fancy hotel talking about it?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #198 on: April 04, 2017, 06:31:45 PM »
The difference here is, that we are dealing with facts here, not opinion. What we are arguing about, is how these facts effect us. And there is no one answer to that.

Hmm- I don't know that I'd say that all the arguments made were facts exactly.

  - Heck you could argue that showing your wife appreciation would BE TAKING her to a Pesach hotel.  :P
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #199 on: April 04, 2017, 06:34:22 PM »
100% I completely acknowledge that this is a personal feeling I have towards this idea and I do happen to share it with some others here. I have nothing against anyone who goes, nor would I judge them, but the argument I was having was with regards to the ones who seemed to put down those of us who were not fans of the idea.

Exactly the point. Not knocking those who need to go for whatever reason... You can have a very meaningful Pesach at a program, just don't tell me it can be equal to what "can" be had at home.

And if you don't believe that Pesach is about limitations, you certainly won't be able to understand the difference between being home vs. a hotel.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #200 on: April 04, 2017, 06:35:27 PM »
Hillel definitely had lamb schwarma in a laffa with charif.
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מר and חריף are two different things.

However, his was definitely the original schawarma.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #201 on: April 04, 2017, 06:37:21 PM »
Back on topic here...

  Does anyone know if people have had an easy time making other plans?   And any word of how fast the money is going to be returned?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #202 on: April 04, 2017, 06:38:32 PM »
Back on topic here...

How dare you?  :D
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #203 on: April 04, 2017, 06:38:56 PM »
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #204 on: April 04, 2017, 06:41:48 PM »

If we ate kitniyot and soft fresh matza, we'd have none of this craziness (and far less gas in shull)

more beans = less gas?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #206 on: April 04, 2017, 06:53:40 PM »
Marror... FTFM
Oh you mean lettuce......
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #207 on: April 04, 2017, 06:57:51 PM »
Back on topic here...

  Does anyone know if people have had an easy time making other plans?   And any word of how fast the money is going to be returned?

My heart goes out to the people and the program owner - I know both.  One friend is going to Venice. Others I don't know.  I hope it all works out for them. 

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #208 on: April 04, 2017, 07:19:54 PM »
My heart goes out to the people and the program owner - I know both.  One friend is going to Venice. Others I don't know.  I hope it all works out for them.
Do you know how many guests were booked with them?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #209 on: April 04, 2017, 07:24:27 PM »
Do you know how many guests were booked with them?

Sorry I don't. I wouldn't consider it a small program though.