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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #345 on: April 20, 2017, 03:26:40 PM »
I know an Amazing Chabad Rabbi. I would eat in his house in a heartbeat. I  was in touch with him about a wedding where he was in charge of the caterer and the compromises he had to make were to the extent that I was unable to eat by the wedding and I don't have very exacting standards so I think it has a lot more to do with the venue then the person doing the hashgacha although there are some mashgichim who won't take a venue that isn't lichatchila in every aspect. for various reasons this Rabbi did not have a choice in the matter. It's way to see a situation or even a good chabad shliach will have to end up stretching things kashrus wise when they majorly conflict with the venues image/ needs etc.

POTM is run by a shliach at a Four Seasons and all of the Rabonim and mashgichim ate the program's regular food as well.

When in SIN I asked the shliach if he eats at CB&TL and skipped it when he said he would not.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #346 on: April 20, 2017, 03:27:01 PM »
Anyone who goes on a program tends to obviously be biased about that programs "stellar kashrus reputation".

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #347 on: April 20, 2017, 03:28:44 PM »
Anyone who goes on a program tends to obviously be biased about that programs "stellar kashrus reputation".
+1 to each their own. If the Kashrus is your issue it may not be mine...
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #348 on: April 20, 2017, 03:30:51 PM »
Anyone who goes on a program tends to obviously be biased about that programs "stellar kashrus reputation".

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #349 on: April 20, 2017, 03:31:30 PM »
Heard from a friend of mine that worked as a mashgiach in a hotel a few years ago. Mind you this was a hotel that was run by an organization that supposedly raises money to keep or make ppl frum, i would assume a hotel like this would make sure to be very strict about the kashrus... He told me that after first days spent fighting with the director and the head mashgiach he called Rabbi Belsky and on chol hamoed Rabbi Belsky Made the organization re kasher the whole kitchen. Among the things going on, the workers were bringing in chometz, Beer and one of the chefs insisted on only using his own knife... Of course it was nisht gebrochts though
This story makes no sense. You can't kasher it on pesach.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #350 on: April 20, 2017, 03:35:15 PM »
This story makes no sense. You can't kasher it on pesach.
why cant you?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #351 on: April 20, 2017, 03:36:26 PM »
When in SIN I asked the shliach if he eats at CB&TL and skipped it when he said he would not.

Your background in yeshiva and DD leads you to ask questions and not make assumptions. Unfortunately most people out there have never thought to even ask.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #353 on: April 20, 2017, 03:42:25 PM »

Doesn't say you can't kasher just qualifies the statement that before yom tov you don't have to worry about ben yomo.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #354 on: April 20, 2017, 03:42:29 PM »
When in SIN I asked the shliach if he eats at CB&TL and skipped it when he said he would not.
Chabad seems to always have politics with the local establishments, was that the case here?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #355 on: April 20, 2017, 03:44:47 PM »
As far as gebrokts, it's very simple, no matza or matza meal in the food. The only possible issue would be if you're worried that someone else is not makpid and you end up with the same plate or bowl that they used the day before for gebrokts.
Don't remember if this was a story or a joke, but I heard (a few years back) that there was a Pesach program that had a waiter walking around the dining hall serving soup.

Waiter: Gebrokts or non-Gebrokts?
Guest 1: non-Gebrokts please.
Waiter pours ladle of soup from serving pot into bowl.
Moves to next guest.

Waiter: Gebrokts or non-Gebrokts?
Guest 2: Gebrokts please.
Waiter scoops Matza ball from bottom of said serving pot into bowl, then pours ladle of soup over it.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #356 on: April 20, 2017, 03:44:55 PM »
Doesn't say you can't kasher just qualifies the statement that before yom tov you don't have to worry about ben yomo.
:o Did you read in the box?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #357 on: April 20, 2017, 03:46:22 PM »
Chabad seems to always have politics with the local establishments, was that the case here?
I believe that it's under his hechsher.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #358 on: April 20, 2017, 03:49:10 PM »
:o Did you read in the box?
maybe they did libun or bought some new kelim, or followed whatever Rabbi Belsky told them to do. I'm not a posek but I do believe my friend who was involved with the story.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #359 on: April 20, 2017, 03:51:39 PM »
maybe they did libun or bought some new kelim, or followed whatever Rabbi Belsky told them to do. I'm not a posek but I do believe my friend who was involved with the story.
Libun is not possible for a significant portion of the equipment used. Neither is buying new a real option for much of it. There is something missing from this story.
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