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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #375 on: April 20, 2017, 04:28:33 PM »
How does that help?
assuming the problem is theres no bittul on pesach, a goys chometz should be able to become batel as theres no asa'an htorah birshuso

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #376 on: April 20, 2017, 04:28:33 PM »
And I am assuming you never visited that url, nor did carefully read my posts upthread.
I did but I possibly have reading comprehension issues.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #377 on: April 20, 2017, 04:29:47 PM »
I did but I possibly have reading comprehension issues.
You must have spent too much time studying English rather than Limudei Kodesh.  ;D
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #378 on: April 20, 2017, 04:37:20 PM »
assuming the problem is theres no bittul on pesach, a goys chometz should be able to become batel as theres no asa'an htorah birshuso
What do those 2 have to do with each other?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #379 on: April 20, 2017, 04:38:43 PM »
Once again you're full of assumptions. The mashgichim at POTM for example were all Chabad.
Here you go again using labels.

What does that mean? What does that say?

I happened to be walking back from תהלוכה with someone whose son was there for the first days. I asked him whether his son would eat there. He answered that he assumes he did eat there but would rather not ask, and that this son makes sure to go for Pesach to high-end sedorim, and eats wherever he goes. He said that he has another son who will just go wherever needed, and will eat just minimal things (hard boiled eggs, etc.) or take food along for himself. This story seems to indicate a negative correlation between emphasis on luxury and kashrus scrupulousness. I try to avoid assumptions, but life experience does indicate something.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #380 on: April 20, 2017, 04:42:26 PM »
Here you go again using labels.

What does that mean? What does that say?

I happened to be walking back from תהלוכה with someone whose son was there for the first days. I asked him whether his son would eat there. He answered that he assumes he did eat there but would rather not ask, and that this son makes sure to go for Pesach to high-end sedorim, and eats wherever he goes. He said that he has another son who will just go wherever needed, and will eat just minimal things (hard boiled eggs, etc.) or take food along for himself. This story seems to indicate a negative correlation between emphasis on luxury and kashrus scrupulousness. I try to avoid assumptions, but life experience does indicate something.
What in the actual world? I know it's 4/20 and all, but c'mon.

You said that in programs the mashgichim won't care about gebroktz as much as Chabad would. I told you that in my program the mashgichim were all Lubavitchers who clearly do care about gebroktz, and you throw something about labels back at me.

Nobody is trying to convince you to go to a program. Perhaps you're so holy that you never eat out at all. More power to you. But I'm done here.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #381 on: April 20, 2017, 04:42:51 PM »
What do those 2 have to do with each other?
im venturing a possibilty, the reason chametz isnt batel on pesach is because hatorah asa'an birshuso so it cant be batel. chometz of a goy which is not hatorah asa'an birshuso should be able to be batel and therefore you should be able to eat it.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #382 on: April 20, 2017, 04:43:18 PM »
What in the actual world? I know it's 4/20 and all, but c'mon.

You said that in programs they won't care about gebroktz as much as Chabad would. I told you that in my program the mashgichim were Lubavitchers who clearly do care about gebroktz and you throw something about labels back at me.

I'm done here.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #383 on: April 20, 2017, 04:44:22 PM »
You seemed stresses, can I roll you one?

Who gives the Hashgacha on it?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #384 on: April 20, 2017, 04:44:33 PM »
Here you go again using labels.

What does that mean? What does that say?

I happened to be walking back from תהלוכה with someone whose son was there for the first days. I asked him whether his son would eat there. He answered that he assumes he did eat there but would rather not ask, and that this son makes sure to go for Pesach to high-end sedorim, and eats wherever he goes. He said that he has another son who will just go wherever needed, and will eat just minimal things (hard boiled eggs, etc.) or take food along for himself. This story seems to indicate a negative correlation between emphasis on luxury and kashrus scrupulousness. I try to avoid assumptions, but life experience does indicate something.
A guy I was with on Pesach said he was once in CH for Pesach and someone in CH ate chometz, so he tries to no be in CH on Pesach. Therefore I try to not assume all CH eats chometz, but having heard that some do, I try to avoid being in CH for Pesach.

That's what I got from your post.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #385 on: April 20, 2017, 04:45:11 PM »
You seemed stresses, can I roll you one?
Haven't had such odd non-sequitur, hard to decipher the point of, holier-than-thou, circular logic responses since CBC in his feistier era before Chaikel suspended him.
I honestly don't know why I bother.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #386 on: April 20, 2017, 04:45:12 PM »
im venturing a possibilty, the reason chametz isnt batel on pesach is because hatorah asa'an birshuso so it cant be batel. chometz of a goy which is not hatorah asa'an birshuso should be able to be batel and therefore you should be able to eat it.
You are better off not making up your own reasons.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #387 on: April 20, 2017, 04:47:20 PM »
A guy I was with on Pesach said he was once in CH for Pesach and someone in CH ate chometz, so he tries to no be in CH on Pesach. Therefore I try to not assume all CH eats chometz, but having heard that some do, I try to avoid being in CH for Pesach.

That's what I got from your post.
I guess this must apply to you too:
I did but I possibly have reading comprehension issues.


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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #388 on: April 20, 2017, 04:48:29 PM »
A guy I was with on Pesach said he was once in CH for Pesach and someone in CH ate chometz, so he tries to no be in CH on Pesach. Therefore I try to not assume all CH eats chometz, but having heard that some do, I try to avoid being in CH for Pesach.

That's what I got from your post.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #389 on: April 20, 2017, 04:49:47 PM »
You are better off not making up your own reasons.

thats for shehiya iinm. i am talking about it not being batel which the MB says (i forgot from who) is because hatora asa'an birshuso, i was venturing then that a goy's chometz can become batel on pesach
ETA: you're right, i must be mixing it up, possibly with chozeir venaiyor. however, even with the reasoning you qouted i still could see the possibility of being able to be mevatel a goy's chometz on pesach.
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