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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #495 on: April 21, 2017, 10:36:09 AM »
FWIW, his official program in PR last year had major issues from what I heard from some people, but you won't find that online anywhere...
This can be that one place online...
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #496 on: April 21, 2017, 10:37:27 AM »
This can be that one place online...
I don't have a bone in the fight, I just happen to agree with damax that the double standard is wrong. Feel free to post what you want here.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #497 on: April 21, 2017, 10:38:50 AM »
I don't have a bone in the fight, I just happen to agree with damax that the double standard is wrong. Feel free to post what you want here.
I was not implying that it should be your fight, but this is a site with freedom of opinion, so let's all take advantage.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #498 on: April 21, 2017, 10:39:26 AM »
His business model is getting restaurants to pay him to make sure people don't say bad things about them.

Hence no negative reviews on his page, though he frames that as no lashon hara. So every kosher restaurant is a 10 there...

And yes, Luxus does pay him off and they have sent us emails to take down negative reviews about them on DDF. But that's the benefit of not being beholden, go ahead and send your fancy NY lawyuhs if you want.

FWIW, this is the issue with a site that would review programs. The only way to pay for that would be to get programs to advertise, and once that happens you lose credibility. Plus then you'll start getting the takedown notices, etc.

Do they offer you money to take down bad reviews?  It's like reverse extortion.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #499 on: April 21, 2017, 10:41:04 AM »
Do they offer you money to take down bad reviews?  It's like reverse extortion.
I have been offered money in the past, I haven't asked how much or taken it.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #500 on: April 21, 2017, 10:41:56 AM »
I have been offered money in the past, I haven't asked how much or taken it.

I'll give you 5 bucks to ask next time

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #501 on: April 21, 2017, 10:44:42 AM »
One thing you will notice is that the best Pesach programs (KMR etc) don't have to hire PR firms etc and fill up quick on word of mouth etc, sometimes weeks before they even announce which hotel they are going to..

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #502 on: April 21, 2017, 10:50:14 AM »
His business model is getting restaurants to pay him to make sure people don't say bad things about them.

Hence no negative reviews on his page, though he frames that as no lashon hara. So every kosher restaurant is a 10 there...

And yes, Luxus does pay him off and they have sent us emails to take down negative reviews about them on DDF. But that's the benefit of not being beholden, go ahead and send your fancy NY lawyuhs if you want.

FWIW, this is the issue with a site that would review programs. The only way to pay for that would be to get programs to advertise, and once that happens you lose credibility. Plus then you'll start getting the takedown notices, etc.

I've never seen him give a bad review on a restaurant. The only exception was a pizza shop in Cedarhurst and there he was brutal and relentless.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #503 on: April 21, 2017, 10:52:02 AM »
I've never seen him give a bad review on a restaurant. The only exception was a pizza shop in Cedarhurst and there he was brutal and relentless.
I guess they should have paid ;)

FWIW there was a restaurant chef (of a paying client) who made fun of how bad another restaurant was (that was not a paying client) and he let that post stand for a day until so many people started complaining about the double standard that he had to take it down.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #504 on: April 21, 2017, 10:52:14 AM »
I've never seen him give a bad review on a restaurant. The only exception was a pizza shop in Cedarhurst and there he was brutal and relentless.
Exactly. He gives a great review, then tries to get you to pay to get into his ads
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #505 on: April 21, 2017, 11:26:40 AM »
His business model is getting restaurants to pay him to make sure people don't say bad things about them.

Hence no negative reviews on his page, though he frames that as no lashon hara. So every kosher restaurant is a 10 there...

And yes, Luxus does pay him off and they have sent us emails to take down negative reviews about them on DDF. But that's the benefit of not being beholden, go ahead and send your fancy NY lawyuhs if you want.

FWIW, this is the issue with a site that would review programs. The only way to pay for that would be to get programs to advertise, and once that happens you lose credibility. Plus then you'll start getting the takedown notices, etc.

case in point. last year at his paradise in Puerto Rico, the guest got food poisoning. Any review that got posted about it was removed and blocked.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #506 on: April 21, 2017, 11:54:40 AM »
"Hence no negative reviews on his page, though he frames that as no lashon hara."

Are you saying that that's not legit? Does that beat your approach to lashon hara on your forums? (Though I can't exactly figure out what that approach is...)

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #507 on: April 21, 2017, 11:57:14 AM »
"Hence no negative reviews on his page, though he frames that as no lashon hara."

Are you saying that that's not legit? Does that beat your approach to lashon hara on your forums? (Though I can't exactly figure out what that approach is...)
So is your approach, "don't tell anyone how you got shtupped by a pesach program and let them get shtupped themselves?" Sounds great, I'll stick with my LH
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #508 on: April 21, 2017, 12:00:08 PM »
"Hence no negative reviews on his page, though he frames that as no lashon hara."

Are you saying that that's not legit? Does that beat your approach to lashon hara on your forums? (Though I can't exactly figure out what that approach is...)
It means he is ignoring lo saamod al dam reyecho
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #509 on: April 21, 2017, 12:00:43 PM »
"Hence no negative reviews on his page, though he frames that as no lashon hara."

Are you saying that that's not legit? Does that beat your approach to lashon hara on your forums? (Though I can't exactly figure out what that approach is...)
great second post I guess it took you 5 years to word it correctly