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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #240 on: April 07, 2017, 05:16:52 PM »
Approximately how far down? Or do I have to read through the entire thread?
Lol sorry. The last discussion in the thread was regarding the values of a restaurant owner.
ETA: This is where it's starts.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #241 on: April 07, 2017, 05:40:15 PM »

Lol sorry. The last discussion in the thread was regarding the values of a restaurant owner.
ETA: This is where it's starts.
From what I read so far, I think that might be a different discussion.

Possibly a misguided, פארלארענע נשמה, in that situation. Here we're talking possible dishonesty. נאמנות is of utmost importance when it comes to Kashrus.

I personally avoid Kind bars (I mention this because I saw that Dan compared that situation to Kind, though I think it is a little different) due to where the owner puts his profits (wish I could afford to do the same with Amazon, but that's just too hard to avoid), but I would be comfortable with the Kashrus being up to purported standards.

However, if I felt a person who runs a kitchen is shady or dishonest, I am not sure any Kashrus agency can outsmart such a person, if they decided to cheat on Kashrus.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #242 on: April 07, 2017, 05:47:52 PM »
No big loss, was never a fan of TPG anyway.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #243 on: April 07, 2017, 06:01:13 PM »
No big loss, was never a fan of TPG anyway.
Pun intended

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #244 on: April 07, 2017, 06:39:38 PM »
No big loss, was never a fan of TPG anyway.
so you wouldn't eat there?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #245 on: April 07, 2017, 06:40:39 PM »
so you wouldn't eat there?
If it was good I'd have a tougher decision to make ;)
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #246 on: April 07, 2017, 06:41:52 PM »
From what I read so far, I think that might be a different discussion.

Possibly a misguided, פארלארענע נשמה, in that situation. Here we're talking possible dishonesty. נאמנות is of utmost importance when it comes to Kashrus.

I personally avoid Kind bars (I mention this because I saw that Dan compared that situation to Kind, though I think it is a little different) due to where the owner puts his profits (wish I could afford to do the same with Amazon, but that's just too hard to avoid), but I would be comfortable with the Kashrus being up to purported standards.

However, if I felt a person who runs a kitchen is shady or dishonest, I am not sure any Kashrus agency can outsmart such a person, if they decided to cheat on Kashrus.
I hear your point. I was referring more to the concept of eating/not eating at a place because of the owners beliefs or practices. But when it comes to specifics, dishonesty is very different than the case discussed there.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #247 on: April 10, 2017, 12:40:11 PM »
Did Trump write that?
Jared and Ivanka are here.
Any messages to pass on?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #248 on: April 10, 2017, 12:47:20 PM »
Jared and Ivanka are here.
Any messages to pass on?
Please let us know if they attend your classes.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #249 on: April 10, 2017, 12:51:08 PM »
Jared and Ivanka are here.
Any messages to pass on?
How about a Chag Sameach! And a Happy Passover :)

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #250 on: April 10, 2017, 12:51:28 PM »
Please let us know if they attend your classes.
ALol
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #251 on: April 10, 2017, 01:03:55 PM »
Jared and Ivanka are here.
Any messages to pass on?


Maybe a post by post discussion of this with them?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #252 on: April 10, 2017, 01:07:50 PM »
Btw prime found a new hotel in Mexico

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #253 on: April 10, 2017, 01:22:46 PM »
Jared and Ivanka are here.
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Ashame they can't find a vacation spot in the USA
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #254 on: April 10, 2017, 01:31:24 PM »
Jared and Ivanka are here.
Any messages to pass on?
pic?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #255 on: April 10, 2017, 01:31:50 PM »
Ashame they can't find a vacation spot in the USA
Who cares?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #256 on: April 12, 2017, 08:17:45 AM »
Jared and Ivanka are here.
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Curious if he churns

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #257 on: April 12, 2017, 08:21:36 PM »

Doesn't say much about the Rabbonim who do go, does it?

I think that a program that could allow for people to do their own cooking with their own food, would by definition cater to a different kind of crowd, and have a different kind of atmosphere, but this is pure speculation.

I know of a rov/speaker who would go to these programs and part of his deal was that they provided a small kitchen and a private cook to cook for his family.
I cannot and will not judge anyone else (for any price  :) )

On that note, here's a nice piece someone sent me yesterday via Whatsapp:

ר' לייבל שיינין הרב החסידי של דאקשיץ לא היתה דרכו בנשיאת דרשות, אבל בשבת הגדול נהוג שהרב נושא דרשה, עלה על הבימה ואמר: כתוב במשנה שכל מקום שאין מכניסים בו חמץ אין צריך בדיקה. אף אחד לא הכניס אצל חברו חמץ ואין לו מה לחפש אצל זולתו חמץ וירד מהבימה.
That wasn't the whole derosho but a most memorable part of it.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #258 on: April 12, 2017, 08:27:02 PM »


That wasn't the whole derosho but a most memorable part of it.


Part of an article written in Yiddish by someone who grew up in the Shtetel where Reb Leib was Rov.

Quote from: Di Yiddishe Heim
ר לייב איז יענעם שבת הגדול אַרויף אויף דער בימה, מיט אַ טלית אויף די אַקסלען, און אָן קיינע הכנות און הקדמות אָנגעפאַנגען צו זאָגען אויף גיך די דינים פון הגעלה און ליבון, ווי צו כשרן די כלים אויף פּסח. וועלכע כלים מען דאַרף אויסברענען און וועלכע סאיז גענוג אָפּצוטונקען אין דעם זודיקן קעסל וואָס האָט פאַר פּסח געקאָכט אין דער טהרה-שטיבל לעבן דער בערעזינע.

מיטאַמאָל האָט ער אינמיטן אָפּגעהאַקט די רייד, און נאָך אַ קורצער הפסקה פון עטליכע מינוט, האָט ער צוגעמאַכט די אויגן, ווי ביים חזרן חסידות, און אָנגעפאַנגן צו זאָגן:

- רבותי, אין דער ערשטער משנה פון פּסחים שטייט כל מקום שאין מכניסין בו חמץ, אין צריך בדיקה... ביי יענעם האָט מען גאָרניט אַריינגעלייגט, דאַרף מען ביי יענעם ניט בודק חמץ זיין; חמץ דאַרף מען זוכן ביי זיך...

ער האָט נאָך עטליכע מינוט גערעדט וועגן דער סימבאָלישער באַדייט פון חמץ און ביעור חמץ, פון אויסזוכן דעם רע און אים מבער זיין, אָבער איז גלייך ווידער צוריקגעקומען צו דער ערשטער משנה און פאַרענדיקט די דרשה.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #259 on: April 13, 2017, 01:31:29 AM »
@Dan, how was the Seder with the Kushners?