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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #405 on: April 20, 2017, 06:52:40 PM »
That's nonsense.
Trustworthy programs like KMR and POTM where I was this year advertise luxury and have strong kashrus standards.

POTM is run by a shliach at a Four Seasons and all of the Rabonim and mashgichim ate the program's regular food as well.

What boggles my mind is why anyone would have signed up to attend a Prime program or any program that is run by a sheister...
pretty sure the Werner family doesn't eat the food from thier Pesach program. They bring their own food
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #406 on: April 20, 2017, 06:59:49 PM »
pretty sure the Werner family doesn't eat the food from thier Pesach program. They bring their own food
There's a period between the 2nd sentence and the 3rd sentence.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #407 on: April 20, 2017, 07:00:10 PM »
Do you take great interest in reading about the suffering of fellow Jews?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #408 on: April 20, 2017, 07:07:37 PM »
Regarding that there is isur mashehu on chometz of a goy one place it can be seen is 467:8 where it is clear that even a small amount of flour mixed into honey would be a problem.

Regarding mashehu which happened on pesach it is discussed in numerous cases such as where someone finds a kernel in his food over pesach (467:9 for starters) where the all utensils are assur including any other food mixed with the spoon used (see poskim there).
Haven't checked the source you quoted, but are you sure it's not referring to a case that it was found on pesach but was there before vs what I understood in the story above that the goy used it on pesach

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #409 on: April 20, 2017, 07:09:47 PM »
pretty sure the Werner family doesn't eat the food from thier Pesach program. They bring their own food
Probably easy enough to find out by asking them. Though I think when it comes to R' Simcha Werner, one could be safe to make such an assumption (does he even go to any of these?).
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #410 on: April 20, 2017, 07:22:12 PM »
pretty sure the Werner family doesn't eat the food from thier Pesach program. They bring their own food
I'd love to understand that. They're hosting a program and allegedly serving food to hundreds of yidden on pesach that they would not allow at their own table?
Mashgichim is different, but hosts?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #411 on: April 20, 2017, 07:24:29 PM »
I'd love to understand that. They're hosting a program and allegedly serving food to hundreds of yidden on pesach that they would not allow at their own table?
Mashgichim is different, but hosts?
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #412 on: April 20, 2017, 07:27:02 PM »
I'd love to understand that. They're hosting a program and allegedly serving food to hundreds of yidden on pesach that they would not allow at their own table?
Mashgichim is different, but hosts?
Its very simple. If he has higher than your standards why shouldn't he serve you your standards ? If I'm makpid on a certain shechita that's more expensive why shouldn't I serve you whatever shechita you're ok with ?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #413 on: April 20, 2017, 07:28:47 PM »
Its very simple. If he has higher than your standards why shouldn't he serve you your standards ? If I'm makpid on a certain shechita that's more expensive why shouldn't I serve you whatever shechita you're ok with ?
Exactly. I've worked many weekends serving non cholov yisroel, yet I keep it.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #414 on: April 20, 2017, 07:39:48 PM »
Though I think when it comes to R' Simcha Werner, one could be safe to make such an assumption (does he even go to any of these?).
he most definitely does. To their credit they use pretty good hashgacha for all thier programs. (Interestingly enough though, a different one for almost every program- pesach is the only one when they have a formal hashgacha) date I say the hashgacha on the program is far superior to the hashgacha on the caterer.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #415 on: April 20, 2017, 07:44:59 PM »
Probably easy enough to find out by asking them. Though I think when it comes to R' Simcha Werner, one could be safe to make such an assumption (does he even go to any of these?).

Yes he goes. No, they don't eat the food.
I'd love to understand that. They're hosting a program and allegedly serving food to hundreds of yidden on pesach that they would not allow at their own table?
Mashgichim is different, but hosts?

They probably wouldn't eat in anyone's private home,  which is a widely observed custom in Lubavitch. As much as they are "hosts" - they are not running the kitchen according to their personal standards.

My in laws don't eat avocados - not just on matza, they don't eat avocados at all. At my home, we smear avocado on matza. My father doesn't have sugar, even boiled. My father in law does.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #416 on: April 20, 2017, 07:48:09 PM »
Exactly. I've worked many weekends serving non cholov yisroel, yet I keep it.
So you would serve guests in your home non chalav Yisroel if they weren't makpid?

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #417 on: April 20, 2017, 07:52:02 PM »
Maybe I mean to ask this in a more general sense, chabad minhagim on pesach aside.

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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #418 on: April 20, 2017, 07:52:08 PM »
So you would serve guests in your home non chalav Yisroel if they weren't makpid?
Yes, if I happen to have something non cholov yisroel I would. But I'm not Lubavitch, and actually grew up in a non cholov yisroel home, which makes me a bit of a different case. To me, it's merely a chumrah that I keep while others don't.
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Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
« Reply #419 on: April 20, 2017, 07:56:19 PM »
Maybe I mean to ask this in a more general sense, chabad minhagim on pesach aside.
If you were makpid not to eat anything not made at home wouldn't you serve Schick's & Oberlander's to people who do eat them ?