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[AsherO]

But we do hold that we should respect elders, whether Jewish or not.

:ג' שיטות

ת"ר (ויקרא יט) מפני שיבה תקום יכול אפילו מפני זקן אשמאי ת"ל זקן ואין זקן אלא חכם שנאמר (במדבר יא) אספה לי שבעים איש מזקני ישראל רבי יוסי הגלילי אומר אין זקן אלא מי שקנה חכמה שנאמר (משלי ח) ה' קנני ראשית דרכו יכול יעמוד מפניו ממקום רחוק ת"ל תקום והדרת לא אמרתי קימה אלא במקום שיש הידור יכול יהדרנו בממון ת"ל תקום והדרת מה קימה שאין בה חסרון כיס אף הידור שאין בו חסרון כיס יכול יעמוד מפניו מבית הכסא ומבית המרחץ ת"ל תקום והדרת לא אמרתי קימה אלא במקום שיש הידור יכול יעצים עיניו כמי שלא ראהו ת"ל תקום ויראת דבר המסור ללב נאמר בו (ויקרא יט) ויראת מאלהיך רבי שמעון בן אלעזר אומר מנין לזקן שלא יטריח ת"ל זקן ויראת איסי בן יהודה אומר מפני שיבה תקום אפילו כל שיבה במשמע רבי יוסי הגלילי היינו תנא קמא איכא בינייהו יניק וחכים ת"ק סבר יניק וחכים לא רבי יוסי הגלילי סבר אפילו יניק וחכים

ת"ק says you're wrong.
איסי בן יהודה Agrees with you.
And רבי יוסי הגלילי agrees with me

[joey89]

:ג' שיטות

ת"ק says you're wrong.
איסי בן יהודה Agrees with you.
And רבי יוסי הגלילי agrees with me

Ashero showing off his בקיאות

[AsherO]

Ashero showing off his בקיאות

Honestly, GIMF

It's the keywords you search, then it's what you do with the search results.

[SuperFlyer]

No, the young like to use slang,and other shortcuts in texting etc.

[shmuelb]

:ג' שיטות

ת"ק says you're wrong.
איסי בן יהודה Agrees with you.
And רבי יוסי הגלילי agrees with me

AsherO, you seem to be a Talmid Chacham,

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so I hear you with some respect. The Gemara that you quoted is not mashma like you because it says the nafka mina is yanik v'chacham, does not mention ziknei akum. I have to check up the Gemara in hard copy and get back to you on this.

Even if you are not in the Beis Medrash, you can keep shteiging if you spend your time on ddf! 

[Dan]

If this is true then I have a project for the 20 somethings. Figure out why the 2/3BM gives different amount of inquires instead of posting the dumb a** response of YMMV. I mean that in a nice way! 

OT, but that's easy.  My theory is that it's 1 pull at the time of the app for a 2/3BM from the same bank and then it depends if the Recon guy you talk to decides that looking at that report is good enough or if he should pull again.  And that is the YMMV part.

[steeeveknowsbest]

27 years old

originally from ny

currently living in Lakewood

married (wife originally from Cleveland) with one daughter

Litvish, black hat and proud!

[Am]

once again. Not only does helpme not answer how old he is but he takes another thread completely off topic. We salute you

[Side incomer]

AsherO, you seem to be a Talmid Chacham, so I hear you with some respect. 

my rabbis used to say: "durt vee torah, durt vee chuchma".

[AsherO]

AsherO, you seem to be a Talmid Chacham, so I hear you with some respect. The Gemara that you quoted is not mashma like you because it says the nafka mina is yanik v'chacham, does not mention ziknei akum. I have to check up the Gemara in hard copy and get back to you on this.

You didn't read my posts in this thread, my shita is that even young people can have experence, i.e. Yanik V'chakim.

Litvish, black hat and proud!

But do you march in those parades...


(Can't believe I double quoted these two responses together in one post)

[Side incomer]

:ג' שיטות
ת"ק says you're wrong.
איסי בן יהודה Agrees with you.
And רבי יוסי הגלילי agrees with me

You are making me problems to read DDF in bathroom. lol

[joey89]

AsherO, you seem to be a Talmid Chacham, so I hear you with some respect. The Gemara that you quoted is not mashma like you because it says the nafka mina is yanik v'chacham, does not mention ziknei akum. I have to check up the Gemara in hard copy and get back to you on this.

Even if you are not in the Beis Medrash, you can keep shteiging if you spend your time on ddf! 

Rashi clearly states that איסי בן יהודה is referring to non Jewish elders so AsherO quoted correctly

[Cbs]

once again. Not only does helpme not answer how old he is but he takes another thread completely off topic. We salute you

+100. hes busy discussing everyone else, he doesnt have time to say who he is!

[karatemike]

30 Yrs Old
Male
Born, raised and live in the "dirty Jerz" aka New Jersey
Catholic
Married
2 sons

[SuperFlyer]

@ side incomer: lol, this is a problem, bathroom was the perfect place...

[HelpMe]

+100. hes busy discussing everyone else, he doesnt have time to say who he is!

…or maybe he feels it is not a good idea to post personal information on the internet.

[shmuelb]

You are making me problems to read DDF in bathroom. lol

IMHO, it is probably better of the 2 evils.

my rabbis used to say: "durt vee torah, durt vee chuchma".

Can you explain the Yiddish?

Rashi clearly states that איסי בן יהודה is referring to non Jewish elders so AsherO quoted correctly

OK, Asher you are great! Shkoiach! And Shkoiach to Joey!

[creditor]

Rashi clearly states that איסי בן יהודה is referring to non Jewish elders so AsherO quoted correctly

so does the rambam [ו`ת"ת ה` ט]
however the type of kibbud for a 'אינו יהודי` is heavily disscused IIRC rambam himself only says מהדרו בדברים

[SuperFlyer]

IMHO, it is probably better of the 2 evils.

Can you explain the Yiddish?

Its bad yiddish, probably some google translate done on an artscroll that translated a biography from yiddish to begin with.

He probably means: where there is thora, there is wisdom.

To say it in yiddish, he could use the following sentence (trying to use the same phonetic/spelling):

durt vee siz do thora, iz do chuchma

[Side incomer]

Its bad yiddish, probably some google translate done on an artscroll that translated a biography from yiddish to begin with.

He probably means: where there is thora, there is wisdom.

To say it in yiddish, he could use the following sentence (trying to use the same phonetic/spelling):

durt vee siz do thora, iz do chuchma

Sorry Mr. This wasn't done on google etc. this is an old yidish sprechvort that was used in the olden days. Go ahead ask any old russian / galitzian guy, how this phrase used to go.
BTW, I never wrote my background on this thread, but this I can tell you, that yidish is my home & base language.