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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2017, 12:44:39 AM »
There's definitely a thread for this.
find and merge?

tiruzim for an existing minhag are not sources.


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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2017, 01:03:00 AM »
my excerpt was borrowed from that article. may be easier to just post this link, there were some dubious ideas in there which is why I didn't originally http://www.mesora.org/Shlissel.html

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2017, 01:16:54 AM »
The Alim Litrufah this week had an earlier mekor than the Apte Rov.

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2017, 01:18:22 AM »
Here's what I'm thinking... we did the shlissel challah this shabbos because the kids wanted to. To us it's just fun, no deep significance. But we don't really take ANY segulos seriously. In Chabad, segulos (especially food segulos) are in general not taken very seriously. I'm wondering if it's the people who take segulos seriously that care so deeply whether or not the shlissel chalah is a real thing.

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2017, 01:18:48 AM »
The Alim Litrufah this week had an earlier mekor than the Apte Rov.
i realize you dont have it by you, but if you remember who it was...

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2017, 01:35:17 AM »
Here's what I'm thinking... we did the shlissel challah this shabbos because the kids wanted to. To us it's just fun, no deep significance. But we don't really take ANY segulos seriously. In Chabad, segulos (especially food segulos) are in general not taken very seriously. I'm wondering if it's the people who take segulos seriously that care so deeply whether or not the shlissel chalah is a real thing.
Segulos have become a big thing since they started being used as a marketing tool.
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2017, 01:37:16 AM »
i realize you dont have it by you, but if you remember who it was...

I don't

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2017, 01:54:55 AM »
Here's what I'm thinking... we did the shlissel challah this shabbos because the kids wanted to. To us it's just fun, no deep significance. But we don't really take ANY segulos seriously. In Chabad, segulos (especially food segulos) are in general not taken very seriously. I'm wondering if it's the people who take segulos seriously that care so deeply whether or not the shlissel chalah is a real thing.
nah, we did it too. this is academic. Also, the Maharal story was made up freshly this year :)

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2017, 01:58:06 AM »


tiruzim for an existing minhag are not sources.

Pretty strong language from the Apter Ruv.

For me that's enough.

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2017, 01:58:10 AM »
nah, we did it too. this is academic. Also, the Maharal story was made up freshly this year :)

Not really. I saw it somewhere this week quoting some Bobover sefer.

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2017, 02:03:40 AM »
Not really. I saw it somewhere this week quoting some Bobover sefer.
I stand corrected. I found it online with a chassidishe rebbe in 2007. but definitely gained popularity this round

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2017, 07:11:25 AM »
I stand corrected. I found it online with a chassidishe rebbe in 2007. but definitely gained popularity this round
I remember reading that story about 15 years ago..

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Re: Is this a true fact about the schlissle (key) challah?
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2017, 08:31:05 AM »
The Alim Litrufah this week had an earlier mekor than the Apte Rov.

Haven't seen the source, but apparently someone mentions this in the name of R' Pinchas of Koritz.
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