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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2017, 09:51:20 PM »
Weren't they just bailed out (for the 3rd time)?
Not much of a help to get back from sukkos now
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2017, 10:25:32 PM »
Not much of a help to get back from sukkos now
I'm talking about AZ. I think the italian government just bailed them out.

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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2017, 07:01:33 AM »
Risk definitely exists. Buy insurance that will give you adequate coverage in case of provider insolvency.
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2017, 01:03:19 PM »
Risk definitely exists. Buy insurance that will give you adequate coverage in case of provider insolvency.

Thanks any recommendations?
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2017, 01:14:08 PM »
Thanks any recommendations?
Not really. I usually go to insuremytrip.com to shop for these kinds of plans, but I've seen other sites mentioned around DDF that will also allow you to shop and compare available plans.
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2017, 03:53:09 PM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/10/16/report-lufthansa-preparing-alitalia-bid-steep-cuts/767932001/

According to this article, the Italian government gave them enough money to operate through next  summer.
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2017, 04:00:39 PM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/10/16/report-lufthansa-preparing-alitalia-bid-steep-cuts/767932001/

According to this article, the Italian government gave them enough money to operate through next  summer.

Through? They burned through 600m EUR since they filed for bankruptcy (six months that include their busy summer season) and they just got another 300m, no chance it'll last through next summer.

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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2017, 04:28:03 PM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/10/16/report-lufthansa-preparing-alitalia-bid-steep-cuts/767932001/

According to this article, the Italian government gave them enough money to operate through next  summer.

As I have said upthread:

...European. They have perfected the art of can kicking and extend & pretend.

Never underestimate the European (and especially Italian) ability to kick the can down the road.
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2018, 08:42:35 PM »
Sounds like all is good but if I book with Alitalia, does it make sense to book under a Delta codeshare (DL ticket, Alitalia metal)? If Alitalia cancels flight, would DL be on hook to rebook? Price is the same.

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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2018, 10:24:37 PM »
Sounds like all is good but if I book with Alitalia, does it make sense to book under a Delta codeshare (DL ticket, Alitalia metal)? If Alitalia cancels flight, would DL be on hook to rebook? Price is the same.
DL would be on the hook.
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2018, 10:30:16 PM »
Sounds like all is good but if I book with Alitalia, does it make sense to book under a Delta codeshare (DL ticket, Alitalia metal)? If Alitalia cancels flight, would DL be on hook to rebook? Price is the same.
If its issued by Delta, they should rebook you on their own metal.

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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2018, 01:20:17 PM »
Does anyone think that at this point my Pesach tickets are safe?
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2018, 04:30:56 PM »
Does anyone think that at this point my Pesach tickets are safe?
What people might think wont make any difference when the proverbial excrement hits the rotation.

Buy with a CC that covers in case of financial default, or dont buy if your travel plans are too close to Pesach to be able to find a last minute alternative.
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2018, 07:36:03 PM »
Does anyone think that at this point my Pesach tickets are safe?
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/10/15/alitalia-government-loan/
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the Italian government will give Alitalia a further 300 million EUR loan, and is extending the deadline for finding Alitalia a buyer until April 30, 2018
Didn't hear that anything changed since this update

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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #54 on: March 25, 2018, 07:19:03 PM »
Booked ORD-FCO-TLV-AMS-ORD in August.  My outbound ticket is on AZ but return is DL.  Wish I had remembered about this because having to replace one leg if they go bankrupt will be probably next to impossible.

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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2018, 08:08:53 PM »
Booked ORD-FCO-TLV-AMS-ORD in August.  My outbound ticket is on AZ but return is DL.  Wish I had remembered about this because having to replace one leg if they go bankrupt will be probably next to impossible.

Who did you book with?
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2018, 08:18:48 PM »
Who did you book with?

Alitalia (through a 3rd party website).  My return trip is ticketed through DL, though.

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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2018, 08:24:18 PM »
Alitalia (through a 3rd party website).  My return trip is ticketed through DL, though.

I was panicking about this back in November when I booked a ticket for Pesach, but nothing has happened and I made it one way.

My guess is you'll end up being fine, but...

What people might think wont make any difference when the proverbial excrement hits the rotation.
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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2018, 11:38:24 AM »
What about booking for June. I'm a taking a risk
I saw this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-15/there-s-a-fight-brewing-for-control-of-italy-s-skies

According to that article is seems that if they really do go under other airlines will take over their flights. True?

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Re: Alitalia Bankruptcy
« Reply #59 on: April 01, 2018, 08:04:49 PM »
What about booking for June. I'm a taking a risk
I saw this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-15/there-s-a-fight-brewing-for-control-of-italy-s-skies

According to that article is seems that if they really do go under other airlines will take over their flights. True?
I once booked 4 tickets for my family and I on one of the ill fated all business class nyc-lon airlines, I think it was silverjet? They went bankrupt 2 weeks before our flight. British Airways agreed to take our ticket with something like a $150 per ticket fee, so we ended up flying BA J for minimal extra cost. Not saying it will work like that with Alitalia, but a data point that may have some value.