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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2017, 02:10:48 PM »
TK for the outbound and LX for the return.
TK > UA first?

Babysitter wants different dates than I initially planned for so this may all be academic anyway
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #106 on: July 07, 2017, 02:14:43 PM »
TK > UA first?
If TK is 777 on the longhaul then forsure. But even if A330, being the second leg is around 2 hours in either lie flat J or at the very least a recliner seat (similar to domestic F) versus around 5 hours in a economy seat is a no brainer.

In addition UA F is just a really nice J product..

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #107 on: July 07, 2017, 04:01:34 PM »
I've never taken LH or OS, so can't comment on that.

When I book I look also at what time I get into TLV, which for me is an important factor. LH is fake J and FRA-TLV is longer than IST-TLV. On IST-TLV YMMV on whether it's fake J or real J (with some flights even being widebody). IST airport isn't fun, but the TK business lounge is good (reserve a shower as soon as you arrive, there could be a long wait sometimes).

I didn't like the LX hard or soft J product last time I went, so I switched my return to TK and was happy.
I found LX J to be very good both hard and soft.

I did find their 5am Tlv departure time annoying, but made up for it by being so tired that bio turbulence would wake me up
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #108 on: July 07, 2017, 04:18:12 PM »
I found LX J to be very good both hard and soft.

It's good to have different opinions.

I would say TK J > LX J (though English language skills of TK staff ex-TLV leave a lot to be desired).

ZRH > IST (airport) by a wide margin.

Didn't have enough of an experience in the ZRH business lounge, which seemed nice as I joined a minyan elsewhere in the terminal. IST TK business lounge is huge, excellent showers and sleeping suites if your connection is the right length (longer than 4 hours, shorter than 7 hours IINM).
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #109 on: July 07, 2017, 04:48:41 PM »



ZRH > IST (airport) by a wide margin.

+1 ZRH is one of the nicest and most convenient airports in the world. While IST is madly annoying! It can take you 45 minutes to walk to the lounge if you can even find it, and the lounge is always packed.

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #110 on: July 07, 2017, 04:58:36 PM »
+1 ZRH is one of the nicest and most convenient airports in the world. While IST is madly annoying! It can take you 45 minutes to walk to the lounge if you can even find it, and the lounge is always packed.
I think the only airport I've been to that I dislike more than IST is MIA, though YYZ is also a contender.

ETA: I forgot FCO. Pretty bad too, and usually need to take shuttle bus to/from aircraft.
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #111 on: July 07, 2017, 05:04:26 PM »
I think the only airport I've been to that I dislike more than IST is MIA, though YYZ is also a contender.

ETA: I forgot FCO. Pretty bad too, and usually need to take shuttle bus to/from aircraft.
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #112 on: July 09, 2017, 10:21:22 PM »
Looking at the following options for NYC-TLV:

UA business or first on 777-200 NYC-FRA, then LH business (I assume fake) FRA-TLV. Connection time 4.40
LH business NYC-FRA-TLV. 2.30 connection
TK business NYC-IST-TLV. 5.55 connection but it's an earlier flight which gives me a few more hours in Israel I guess

Thoughts?

For the way back it's LX vs. LH vs. OS, I'm thinking LX because of the real business?
Ok, change of dates means that TK is no longer an option. I'm now deciding between UA F for 90k or LH J for 80k on the EWR-FRA leg. The LH option has an extra hour stopover (leaves ewr an hour earlier) which is not ideal but not terrible. Opinions?

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #113 on: July 09, 2017, 10:30:25 PM »
Ok, change of dates means that TK is no longer an option. I'm now deciding between UA F for 90k or LH J for 80k on the EWR-FRA leg. The LH option has an extra hour stopover (leaves ewr an hour earlier) which is not ideal but not terrible. Opinions?

UA F.

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #114 on: July 09, 2017, 10:39:31 PM »
Ok, change of dates means that TK is no longer an option. I'm now deciding between UA F for 90k or LH J for 80k on the EWR-FRA leg. The LH option has an extra hour stopover (leaves ewr an hour earlier) which is not ideal but not terrible. Opinions?
Def UA F. But book using 75k SQ or 60k A3.

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #115 on: July 09, 2017, 10:46:21 PM »
Def UA F. But book using 75k SQ or 60k A3.
Sq will mean more yq, no? On the second portion which is LH fake j regardless
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #116 on: July 09, 2017, 10:51:44 PM »
Def UA F. But book using 75k SQ or 60k A3.
Also not to sound too stupid what's a3
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #117 on: July 09, 2017, 10:53:05 PM »
Also not to sound too stupid what's a3

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #118 on: July 09, 2017, 10:53:57 PM »
Aegean, Greece's flag carrier (?). StarAlliance member, recently added SPG transfer partner.
And I assume they charge yq?
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #119 on: July 09, 2017, 10:56:46 PM »
And I assume they charge yq?

That part I'm not sure about, sorry.
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