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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2017, 06:15:53 PM »
I feel like I may be derailing this thread which is about J products to/from TLV when what I really want is help planning my itinerary.

Anyone want to help me? If so, what thread should we move to. Or you could always PM if you're in the mood.

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2017, 06:21:04 PM »
I feel like I may be derailing this thread which is about J products to/from TLV when what I really want is help planning my itinerary.

Anyone want to help me? If so, what thread should we move to. Or you could always PM if you're in the mood.
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2017, 03:27:22 PM »
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2017, 03:36:36 PM »
Just because of the Wide-Body aircraft for the TLV-EU segment I would go with LX. I personally prefer OS over LX for the long haul though.
That was my thought when I booked LX, but I was really disappointed with the product. Lie flat bed is too short and too narrow (laying on my side, FA bumped into my knees with cart).

WiFi is available on LX, though one has to purchase a package, unlike TK which is free for business class.

This thread reminded me that I actually did also fly SN in Fake business ex-TLV. Had to travel urgently and only thing I found was SN TLV-BRU-GVA connecting to UA for GVA-EWR. Nothing good to say about that one, neither SN nor BRU airport is something to look forward to.
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2017, 10:12:09 PM »
767?
Decent. Worst is the 777-200 which is literally a economy seat that lies flat. (2-4-2 config, plus rear facing seats)

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2017, 10:13:59 PM »
Another option is to go TLV-BRU and then switch to UA for the transatlantic. Is Polaris much better than those other Js I mentioned?
Simple answer is no.
Add to that the fact that TLV-BRU is around 5 hours in "fake" J.

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2017, 10:51:31 PM »
Simple answer is no.
Add to that the fact that TLV-BRU is around 5 hours in "fake" J.

Is that the same "fake" J as what you referred to in your previous post?

Decent. Worst is the 777-200 which is literally a economy seat that lies flat. (2-4-2 config, plus rear facing seats)

In other words, are these the same thing?

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2017, 11:04:46 PM »
Is that the same "fake" J as what you referred to in your previous post?

In other words, are these the same thing?
No, he's referring to fake eu J, which is just a blocked middle seat.

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2017, 11:09:20 PM »
Is that the same "fake" J as what you referred to in your previous post?

In other words, are these the same thing?
No. UA J on the 777-200 is "real" J, although widely known in the industry as one the worst long haul J products. Whereas J on SN between TLV and BRU is not a J product at all just a regular economy seat with the middle seat blocked, as is standard with many European airlines for domestic flights.

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2017, 11:40:54 PM »
Thanks for clarifying.

So I am looking at UA right now for a LHR-TLV itinerary. It seems that on LX the LHR-ZRH leg is in a Bombadier. That's fake J? The ZRH-TLV is in an airbus 330. I am assuming that's real J.

Are there better routes for LHR-TLV maybe with different miles?

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2017, 11:42:11 PM »


No. UA J on the 777-200 is "real" J, although widely known in the industry as one the worst long haul J products.

How many J products have you flown? UA 772 J is more like mediocre than "one of the worst".

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2017, 11:57:09 PM »

How many J products have you flown? UA 772 J is more like mediocre than "one of the worst".
I would say I have flown probably more than 20 different products.

However for clarification purposes, I am referring to the 772 configured with 8 seats across, and rear facing seats. Which as I mentioned is effectively just a lie-flat economy seat.

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2017, 12:44:05 AM »
That was my thought when I booked LX, but I was really disappointed with the product. Lie flat bed is too short and too narrow (laying on my side, FA bumped into my knees with cart).

WiFi is available on LX, though one has to purchase a package, unlike TK which is free for business class.

This thread reminded me that I actually did also fly SN in Fake business ex-TLV. Had to travel urgently and only thing I found was SN TLV-BRU-GVA connecting to UA for GVA-EWR. Nothing good to say about that one, neither SN nor BRU airport is something to look forward to.
Seems like you sat in the wrong seat.
Try 4a or 6a etc, which are window seats and aisle access nice and wide with lots of space , boy have i slept in those.

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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2017, 12:48:37 AM »
Decent. Worst is the 777-200 which is literally a economy seat that lies flat. (2-4-2 config, plus rear facing seats)
Oh , that's the worst it can probably get in lie flat.
A few months back, was booked in  LH J 747-8 upstairs yo FRA, last second switched to UA since it left 3 hrs later.
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Re: Business Class to/from TLV - product thread.
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2017, 01:39:57 AM »
Seems like you sat in the wrong seat.
Try 4a or 6a etc, which are window seats and aisle access nice and wide with lots of space , boy have i slept in those.
Wasn't flying alone, so I took middle section.
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