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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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Ok, I'll make this simpler.

One passenger

Maximum 1 stop
From: JFK, LGA or if necessary EWR
To: OAK, SFO or if necessary SJC
Departure dates: 3/21 (or 3/22 early, if necessary)
Return airports: From OAK or SFO to JFK or if necessary LGA
Return dates: 4/2  late (11-ish pm, It's motzei yomtov)
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: *A, (booking with UA miles)

If anybody can find me a saver award I'd greatly appreciate it!

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Search united.com. If it aint there, you're outta luck.
is it really that simple? So what's the 30 pages of the *A search thread all about? (i guess I better get started reading...)

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is it really that simple? So what's the 30 pages of the *A search thread all about? (i guess I better get started reading...)

For *A domestically on those routes, it's either US or UA. And UA is a better engine.
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For *A domestically on those routes, it's either US or UA. And UA is a better engine.
Got it, thanks.

What if I were to use MR or SPG? that would obviously give me far more options. What carriers should I look at for those routes?

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Got it, thanks.

What if I were to use MR or SPG? that would obviously give me far more options. What carriers should I look at for those routes?

Try 'em all! MR to BA for flights on AA; MR to DL; etc.
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Please forgive me for my ignorance, but I am looking to book a direct flight to Israel with a stop over in Italy on the Return. I only have AMEX points so if I need to transfer that could also be an option.

Here are the rough estimate of dates I'm looking for. Looking for business class award if possible.
People: 2
Airline: anyone that I can use AMEX points
Depart: NYC to TLV 5/16 (Motzei yom tov)
Depart: TLV 5/27 (+/- 1 day) to FCO/MXP
Depart: FCO/MXP to NYC on either 5/30 or 6/2.

If in addition to helping with this, if someone could direct me to the best places to look, I would appreciate it so that I don't have to be dependent. Thanks.
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hey guys, im currently flying out,
JFK-ICN march 13 OZ221 777-200
ICN-HKG march 14 OZ745 747-400
in business class, using united miles.
i'm a platinum member so free changes and close in bookings.

thing is the jfk-icn is the old 777-200.. and the business class, not so great.
was wondering if any one had any routing ideas to get onto a better flight? i can leave all day the 13th so long as i get to hong kong the 14th by night..
1 condition. i can't go through europe.
any ideas? any one with the fancy award programs able to help?
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Round trip: Non-stop or 1 stop
From: EWR/JFK or LGA
To: Dallas - DFW
Departure dates: (4-5 days) either leaving 22March or 28-29March
Return dates: 1st case 25-26March or 2nd - 1-2April
Class: Any
Seats: 3
Alliance/Airline: Any ( I have 50K & 50K Southwest (between wife and I), 60K Delta, 25K Amex MR, 14K ex-continental)

Your help is greatly appreciated

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Round trip: Non-stop or 1 stop
From: EWR/JFK or LGA
To: Dallas - DFW
Departure dates: (4-5 days) either leaving 22March or 28-29March
Return dates: 1st case 25-26March or 2nd - 1-2April
Class: Any
Seats: 3
Alliance/Airline: Any ( I have 50K & 50K Southwest (between wife and I), 60K Delta, 25K Amex MR, 14K ex-continental)

Your help is greatly appreciated
On ba you have available flights tue mar 26 and returning tue apr2 for 20k+ 5usd
Transfer mr to ba and book from ba.com to fly on aa

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Round trip: Non-stop or 1 stop
From: NYC (JFK, LGA, EWR)
To: FLL
Departure dates: March 27th
Return dates: March 30 or 31
Class: Coach
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: (United, UA, Amex, AA, BA)

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Round trip: Non-stop or 1 stop
From: NYC (JFK, LGA, EWR)
To: FLL
Departure dates: March 27th
Return dates: March 30 or 31
Class: Coach
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: (United, UA, Amex, AA, BA)

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i need 2 tickets
lax - tlv
flying business or first
apr 15 - 29. dates are somewhat flexible but we want to be there for lag beomer
have amex membership rewards

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i need 2 tickets
lax - tlv
flying business or first
apr 15 - 29. dates are somewhat flexible but we want to be there for lag beomer
have amex membership rewards
Search UA.com and see if they have Saver availability for your dates. Then you could transfer MR to SQ and book through SQ on UA. 
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Search UA.com and see if they have Saver availability for your dates. Then you could transfer MR to SQ and book through SQ on UA for 40k RT. 

i dont see any saver availability with united. if i try to switch up cities, like flying out of ny, i can get economy savew award but not first/business

any other options?
thanks for ur help so far