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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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Thank you in advance for your help Dansdeal'ers!!!  ;)

One way/Round trip: Roundtrip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Max 2 stops
From: Atlanta, GA (ATL)
To: Tel Aviv, Israel (TLV)
Departure dates: May 5 - 7th, 2013
Return airports: ATL
Return dates: May 14 - 16th, 2013
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any : Class Business/Coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with? Either British with Avios, Delta, or Amex miles.

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The dates are most important as that is when work will give vacation.

How big a risk is it that those dates will open up in J/F?

Anyone know how much an upgrade is from Y to J/F. Can it be done with miles.

He has the UA club card so the $75 fee isn't an issue.
So then book in Y (because he has to go then) and hope J or F opens.

You won't get hit with a <21 day fee, but you may for changing COS and/or carriers. Don't recall.
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Round trip:
Maximum stops 1
From: DC, BWI, IAD
To: TLV
Departure dates: 7/21-23
Return dates: About 10 days
Class: Business
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: Any, have MR, united, usair, UR - each enough to cover flight

Don't see anything on United's site and not sure where else to look

Non-stop from PHL or EWR is also fine but unlikely i think
Thanks!

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looking for

Round trip
Non-stop
From: NYC
To: LHR
Departure dates: 6/3-6/5
From:LHR
To:BRU
Departure date:6/9
From:BRU
To:BUD
Departure date:6/11
From:BUD
To:NYC
Departure date:6/13
Class: Any
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: ANY, 350k UR, 250k MR, 100k Avios, 125K United, 75K AA

Thanks!

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From; NYC
To; keiv
Round trip ticket
Date; September, 2 (Monday), Return September 8
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
Class; first
Seats;1
Alliance/airline; spg/ lufthanza

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One way/Round trip: Roundtrip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: 1
From: NYC and EWR
To: TLV
Departure dates: 05/12
Return airports:
Return dates: 05/19
Class: Any
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: any except for Turkish
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Round trip:
Maximum stops 1
From: DC, BWI, IAD
To: TLV
Departure dates: 7/21-23
Return dates: About 10 days
Class: Business
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: Any, have MR, united, usair, aa, UR - each enough to cover flight

Don't see anything on United's site and not sure where else to look

Non-stop from PHL or EWR is also fine but unlikely i think
Thanks!

In a nutshell need biz ticket for about 10 days during summer bein hazemanim from washington area, just need some pointers where is best to look, thanks

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In a nutshell need biz ticket for about 10 days during summer bein hazemanim from washington area, just need some pointers where is best to look, thanks
Look into EWR/YYZ/PHL - TLV, then you will figure how to connect from where ever.

Best bet to use UA miles since they don't charge YQ and free date changes.

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Round trip:
Maximum stops 1
From: NYC
To: TLV
Departure dates: 4/24
Return dates: 4/29
Class: ANY
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: Any, have MR, united, Delta, SPG, UR - each enough to cover flight

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Here comes the wave of 4/24-4/29.
Thank you so much,
That's a huge help...

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One way/Round trip: RT
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Prefer Non-stop, Max 1
From: EWR, JFK, LGA
To: LAX 
Departure dates: May 22, 2013   -  July 3, 2013
Return airports: EWR, JFK, LGA
Return dates: May 28, 2013   -   July 8, 2013
Class: Coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: Southwest ( I have companion pass)

I would like to depart 6PM or after and arrive early AM on the dates selected. If no available early AM return flights, late PM return flight on prior day selected is fine.

TIA!
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Trying to get to Israel for a family bar mitzvah trip. Would not mind checking out London or Rome on the way.

One way/Round trip: ROUNDTRIP
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: ALL SEGMENTS NON-STOP (WILLING TO STOP IN CERTAIN CITIES AS STOPOVER)
From: NYC
TO: LHR or FCO
To: TLV
Departure dates: 8/11 - 8/12
Return airports: NYC
Return dates: 8/23
Class: First/Business
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: STAR / MIXED

I HAVE:
200K MR
200K UR
75K UNITED MP
65K STARPOINTS
I'll probably also have 50K AA

I don't need a hotel in Israel but would need hotel in stopover cities. I have to be in Israel by 8/14, because the party is 8/15 in the AM.

What's the best way to approach this?
Is it too early to get saver awards for this?
Everyone else has already booked travel, but I really want to do the business class thing.

There's availability from Business Saver Award on Lufthansa stopping in Frankfurt for four hours. Should I book now and hope to change later, or hold out for a better flight or routing?
I remember when a coke was a nickel, and you could buy VRs in OD.

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There's availability from Business Saver Award on Lufthansa stopping in Frankfurt for four hours. Should I book now and hope to change later, or hold out for a better flight or routing?

What's the harm in booking now?
"Not all who wander are lost"

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What's the harm in booking now?

Does the $75 change fee within 21 days get waived with the club card like the Close in fee does? I'm thinking of signing up for that card and trying to get the Annual Fee waived.
I remember when a coke was a nickel, and you could buy VRs in OD.