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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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Thanks for the helpful answers :)
I forgot to add that I have 35K MR.
I guess I will go with J on the way there, and coach for the way back for a total of 75k. SPG, MR and UR are all transferable to CX?
I would transfer the 35K MR and 40K UR to BA to fly in CX F going to YVR and spend 25K UA to fly back in Y.

I compared CX J and F in my YVR TR:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24056
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07/22 has 2 CX F seats open right now...37.5K BA+$35.
You'll only wish the 6 hour flight was longer!
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07/22 has 2 CX F seats open right now...37.5K BA+$35.
You'll only wish the 6 hour flight was longer!
+1 What a great experience cx f is.
I still love my pj's

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One way/Round trip: one way
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: I don't care, as long as it's cheap
From: All airports from which you can depart Baltimore, Washington, Dayton, Cincinnati
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line Tel Aviv
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible. I need to be there by June 5, I'm flexible

Class: First/Business/Coach/Any : Coach, unless some computer glitch is occurring in which first class is a better price;-)
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 1 1 person
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with
Don't mind
Please add any other information you feel might be useful: I have about 76,000 points with Delta

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Any AirFrance Elites that can book my boss on the sat night flight to Hong Kong via Paris in first class?

Would be willing to pay. PM me.
I remember when a coke was a nickel, and you could buy VRs in OD.

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Any AirFrance Elites that can book my boss on the sat night flight to Hong Kong via Paris in first class?

Would be willing to pay. PM me.
would you transfer Mr points into my fb account?

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would you transfer Mr points into my fb account?

Yes we have Amex
I remember when a coke was a nickel, and you could buy VRs in OD.

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From; NYC (LGA preferred)
To; PUJ
R/T ticket
Date; May 21 or 20 - May 26 or 27
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
Class; Any
Seats;1
Alliance/airline; 100,000+ Chase UR, 38K Southwest, 100K+ AA, 83K+ MR


Please specify where you searched before asking for help:
  • AirTran: 16 A+ credits each way, would be 38,400 Southwest miles in transfer
  • AA.com: outbound 17,500K outbound, 35K return
  • United: 30K each way

Paid tickets are running $900+, my sister needs to go for a friend's wedding, so dates aren't very flexible & we must acquire a ticket one way or another.

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So you found availability on air tran /Aa /united?

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So you found availability on air tran /Aa /united?

Yes, but before I pick one of those I am kinda hoping there's a better option...

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Yes, but before I pick one of those I am kinda hoping there's a better option...
that depends how you value your miles.
You can transfer Mr to ba and book with avios if you have saver awards available

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is anyone able to help?

From: NYC or Newark
To: Tlv
Departure date: 12/18 (or 19 if i can get a
direct Non Stop)
Return dates: 12/28/13 at NIGHT (motzaei
shabbos) or 12/29/or/12/30 I can return
later also but I prefer these dates.
Class: Business Seat: 1
I have 50,000 starwood points
I have 105,000 amex points in 1 acct and
110,000 in a 2nd acct (same last name on
both accts)
I have 2 accts with American (also same last
name) 1 acct has 102,000 and the 2nd acct
has only 2000 miles.
Ultimate rewards 190,000 in one acct and
129,500 in a 2nd acct (again same last
name)
united i have 47,000 in one acct and 58,000
in a 2nd acct
I cant seem to find anything. Do they open
award seats as it gets closer?
any help is appreciated

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One way/Round trip: Round
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: 2
From: MIA, FLL
To: TVL
Departure dates: June 9, 10, 11 (prefer 11)
Return airports:
Return dates: Aug 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (prefer 8)
Class: Coach
Seats: 3
Alliance/Airline:  Miles/Points: United 110, UR (Saphire) 125, UR (Ink) 127, BA 100

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Hi Everyone.

I am looking to get to Poland from NY with a friend to explore the life of the Jews before the holocaust.

We are looking for award availability for any good chunk of time between May 26-June 4. Ideally that entire time.  We have UR/UA/BA/AMEX points. We are exploring the idea of getting somewhere in Europe and taking a cheap ticket on Ryan Air to Poland if feasible. However, we don't want to pay fuel surcharges on the award.

Any leads?

Thanks in advance!

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Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
From: JFK, EWR, LGA, PHL, ACY
To:  HNL, OGG
Departure dates: Jun. 9, 10
Return airports: thru vegas
Return dates: June 13
Class: coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: american airlines, united, delta

I want to be shabboss in vegas then continue motzei shabboss or sunday to ny.