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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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I have at least 165 Amex MR points and want to go to israel with my family, possibly next summer. 2 adults, 3 kids and an infant IY'H. Does it pay to transfer the MR points to AVIOS now since they are offering a 35% bonus? I will need a flight with minimal or no fuel surcharges.
Wait until you can search for availability for your dates (opens roughly 330 days before departure)
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Hi there! I am looking to go to Israel with my wife from June 26 and returning to NY on July 9 (Monday night). I want to travel in business class. Would prefer a direct flight but would be ok with one stopover in each direction. I have plenty of miles with a few different providers. I can't seem to find anything for a decent amount of miles. Any help is greatl appreciated

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i checked all over in all alliances and couldnt find  -

2 Business Class tix -

NYC - TLV -- 4/24 -25 (tomorrow or next day) returning on 4/29

Can leave from surrounding cities as well (if easy and cheap to get to with avios etc...) like YYZ, YUL, IAD ....

max 2 stops.

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i checked all over in all alliances and couldnt find  -

2 Business Class tix -

NYC - TLV -- 4/24 -25 (tomorrow or next day) returning on 4/29

Can leave from surrounding cities as well (if easy and cheap to get to with avios etc...) like YYZ, YUL, IAD ....

max 2 stops.
You have 1 seat in first with lh flying out tomorrow and return you have 2 seats available with fb klm via ams

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Btw for tomorrow's flight if you can handle coach  ;) they should open up after 12 as per the last few nights (no guarantees)

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You have 1 seat in first with lh flying out tomorrow and return you have 2 seats available with fb klm via ams
how would one seat help me? ;)
For the return I did see some. But for tomorrow or Thursday I can't.
I need 2.
And i have to guarantee business. It's not for me.

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Would he consider flying half way business?

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Would he consider flying half way business?
if the long haul is biz

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if the long haul is biz
Now you are talking!
You have loads of seats in business tomorrow to anywhere in Europe Ex bru, gva,lhr,ham,
The ? is would he consider adding a cash ticket from those dest?

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Now you are talking!
You have loads of seats in business tomorrow to anywhere in Europe Ex bru, gva,lhr,ham,
The ? is would he consider adding a cash ticket from those dest?
and econ mileage wouldn't work from there?
Let's say he does do cash from there, will the luggage go through?

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and econ mileage wouldn't work from there?
Let's say he does do cash from there, will the luggage go through?
That's a lot of work to search right now.
I was just throwing some ideas around (CREATIVITY AND FLEXIBILITY)
That would depend what route/airline etc You take

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My boss wants me to find a way to get tickets for him this summer.

One way/Round trip: RT
Non-stop/Maximum stops: doesn't matter
From: NYC
To: TLV
Departure dates: beginning of July 2013
Return airports: NYC
Return dates: end of July 2013
Class: Coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: any, based on how the points he has:
                       UR: 142k
                       MR: 75k
                       SPG: 79k
What I've checked so far: UA.com, USAir.com, BA.com, AirBerlin.com, & FlyingBlue.com. I've also checked on UA for return flights to other cities, like PHL, ORD, etc. with no luck.

Getting there is not a problem (UA on 7/7) it's getting back that I'm having trouble with.  He'd prefer to avoid flying during the 9 days (7/8-7/16)

Any ideas?

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One way/Round trip: Round trip if if arriving in Venice, two one way tickets if arriving in Rome (return departure must be from Venice)
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: up to 1 stop
From: All NY Airports (JFK Preferred)
To: Rome (FCO) or
To: Venice (VCE)
Departure dates: July 25th, 2013
Return airports: All NY Airports
Return dates: Aug 5th/6th (5th preferred)
Class: Any but business/first preferred since we've never had the pleasure!
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: See bullet below

Bullets:
- Cruising with Kosherica to Greek Islands 7/29-8/5
- Would like to arrive prior to port departure day, so would fly in (departing 7/25) and stay in Italy over Shabbat
- Willing to stay in Venice or Rome over Shabbat
- Recently approved for 7 cc to cover flights for this trip but haven't received cards yet so haven't met the minimums (2 Starwood Preferred Guest Amex (25k bonus each), 2 Business Gold Rewards Amex (50k bonus each + potential for 25k more with upgrade to Platinum), 2 Chase Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature (40k bonus), 1 Chase United Explorer Visa Signature (30k bonus + potential 25 if they'll match).
- Have not been able to find flights cheaper than 50k miles pp each way. Since we will have both MR and UR points we are flexible in terms of Airline/Alliances...I guess we would meet minimums for the cards we need for the flights first

Best departing we've found: 50k and $23.30 pp First/Business to Rome through Lufthansa using United Miles transferred from UR
Still not sure about return flight. So far finding similar awards amounts for coach.


First time we're attempting anything like this so thank you so much for any assistance!

Anyone want to take on this super fun project? Just think of the personal satisfaction you'll experience when I benefit from all your hard work  ;)

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You may have more luck if you offer a reward...just sayin'
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I offer reward 4 Help with this Itineadry
« Reply #2159 on: April 24, 2013, 01:14:10 PM »
I you can find me a routing that works for me I will PP you $100.

Here is what I have and what I'm looking for:

I have been trying to get MIA  <--> TLV using Start Alliance points. The only they seem to find is:
MIA -> FRA
FRA -> IST
IST -> TLV
Return:
TLV -> IST (with almost 7 hour connect)
IST -> EWR
EWR -> MIA
Since Im traveling with two kids under 7 the two stops seems like it will be too much.

Anyone have any suggestions how I might go about finding other routs that will give me 1 stop?
My outgoing dates June 9 13, and return Aug 4 19.
I have 350,000 star alliance points.
The above itinerary is on hold until tomorrow night.