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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



Author Topic: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)  (Read 751993 times)

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From: NYC (preferably Newark)
To: Kauai (LIH)
Round trip for 1 (plus 1 for return)
Date: Aug. 4 (Sunday morning) - Aug. 8 (Thursday am/early pm)
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any stops, as long as we're back before Shabbos
Class: Coach
Seats:1.5
Alliance/airline: I am getting 55,000 United, and have 40,000 (soon to be 80,000) UR


Anyone know/have experience getting a United flight to Hawaii for 40K round trip?
I don't see any dates near when I'm going with the Saver point deals; all I see is 40K EACH WAY. Thoughts?

I looked into transferring to Hawaiian, but even they only have 30K, and for very few dates.

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need help finding award ticket to israel from nyc.

June 24-July 4

2 ppl

business or first optimal (don't want to get hammered by fuel SC.

AA Gift card to person who makes it happen.

I have SPG, BA, United, Delta, AA

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need help finding award ticket to israel from nyc.

June 24-July 4

2 ppl

business or first optimal (don't want to get hammered by fuel SC.

AA Gift card to person who makes it happen.

I have SPG, BA, United, Delta, AA


How big is the gift card? ;) - are u ok with a stopover?

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$100 GC

I might be ok with a stopover, depending where it is and if I can make the most out of it.

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SOMEONE PLEASE HELP?! Will pay you $150 if you can help me find a flight that is reasonable and I can use my points.

One way/Round trip: One way or open ended round trip as long as it is not with Traveleso or other sketchy airlines
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: any!
From: All airports from which you  can depart : Cincinnati, Baltimore, Dayton, maybe New York if there was a good price to Tel Aviv, Israel
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keea adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible. I just need to there by June 5th, I would prefer June 3rd. No weekends except for Sunday.
Return airports: If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One way tickets: Same as above
Return dates: Delete this line for One way tickets Not sure, going for seminary for a while. If there is open option then I would do a round trip.
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any: Coach- trying to do this affordable!
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2 1
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

 Any, I have points with Delta and US Airways

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and the best price I have found is from Cincinnati to Tel Aviv for $873, one way. Return flights are usually very expensive plus cannot utilize my points on that site.

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I have points with Delta and US Airways

Both of those only let you make a round-trip award booking, no one-ways.

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I might be ok with a stopover, depending where it is and if I can make the most out of it.

I found a return in business class for the way back from TLV to JFK, still looking for something way there.

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One way/Round trip: Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Non
From: LAX
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Departure dates: 06/16
Return dates: 07/21
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ONE WAY
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: ANY
From: Phuket (HKT)
To: TLV
Departure dates: July 25
Class: Biz
Seats:2
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i would like to arrive on fri before 11:00 AM. the only thing i see is if i leave 1:30 am on july 25 and arrive 12:30am on fri  i would rather leave something in the morning/afternoon range please.
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Round trip:
Non-stop/1 stop
From: NYC,phl ttn
To: Ben-Gurion TLV
Departure dates: Thursday May 23 (pref. evening, Wed late evening ok)
Return airports: NyC
Return dates: Wednesday May 29 (morning)
Class: Coach
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: Any that will get me to Israel by latest 1:00 pm Erev Shabbos
have amex points that i would like to use
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Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #2201 on: April 25, 2013, 06:34:39 PM »
Here is my dilemma - I don't think i can use points I have. AMEX gives and error once you select the flight and though I can transfer AMEX points to Delta Miles (aeroflot is skyline) - not exactly sure how will I book then.  Is my only option to pay hard earned cash then ?

Trying to accomplish the following                           
                           
1.        2 adults + 2 children (1 & 4) from JFK to MSQ on the same day                           
2.        2 adults back MSQ to JFK                           
3.        2 children MSQ to JFK (later, with grandma)                           
4.        1 adult (grandma) JFK to MSQ & back                           
                           
Destination    Carrier   Flight   Date   Leave   Arrive   Price   Where it is stopping   Time between stops   Total Duration
From JFK to Minsk   Aeroflot   101/1830   16-Jul   2:20pm   9:55am   $1,031    Moscow   1 hour 40 mins   11hr 35min
From Minsk to JFK   Aeroflot   1831/102   8-Aug   10:45am   5:10pm      Moscow   2 hours 15 mins   14hr 25min
Fulfills #1&#2                            
                           
From Minsk to JFK   Aeroflot   1835/100   23-Sep   6:10 AM   12:20 PM   $758    Moscow   1 hour 40 mins   14hr 10min
From JFK to Minsk   Aeroflot   101/1830   21-Oct   2:20 PM   9:55 AM      Moscow   1 hour 40 mins   11hr 35min
Fulfills #4                           
                           
From JFK to Minsk   Aeroflot   101/1830   16-Jul   2:20 PM   9:55am   $1,030    Moscow   1 hour 40 mins   11hr 35min
From Minsk to JFK   Aeroflot   1835/100   23-Sep   6:10 AM   12:20 PM      Moscow   1 hour 40 mins   14hr 10min
Fulfills #1&#3                           
                           
                           
UR points                           
Me     13,414    = 40K pending from Sapphire (next statement)                     
Wife    54,927                         
Total    108,341                         
Amex Rewards Poitns                           
    114,000                         
Southwest                           
Me     55,000                         
Wife    52,000                         
Total    107,000                         
Delta                           
    64,000                         

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One way/Round trip:Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:Any just got to be in Cle for wedding the night of 19
From: TLV
To: CLE
Departure dates: June 18 pm (the latter the better)
Return dates June 20
Class: Coach
Seats: One
Alliance/Airline: I have amex but I can buy any if needed
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One way/Round trip:Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:Any just got to be in Cle for wedding the night of 19
From: TLV
To: CLE
Departure dates: June 18 pm (the latter the better)
Return dates June 20
Class: Coach
Seats: One
Alliance/Airline: I have amex but I can buy any if needed
did u try aa with elal?

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One way/Round trip: Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:  Non Stop
From: JFK or LGA
To: LAS
Departure dates:  6/22 night or 6/23 anytime
Return airports: JFK or LGA
Return dates: 6/26
Class: Business
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: I have 100k UA, 100k BA and about 85k  UR
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