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(If you are looking to purchase a paid ticket, please post here)

FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

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If you can handle a couple stop overs  and don't mind paying for F ORD-IAD-YYZ-FRA-TLV.

For 75k? If it gets me there on Monday I'll book it then can always change.
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For 75k? If it gets me there on Monday I'll book it then can always change.
Yep

It gets you there 3:05PM Monday

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One way/Round trip: ROUND TRIP
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: MAX 2 Stops
From: NYC NJ
To: MEL
Departure dates: 7/2/13 + 30 days
Return airports: NYC NJ
Class: Any
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: ANY

I posted this in the paid flight thread but since then it rocketed to $1900...
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Yep

It gets you there 3:05PM Monday

Will call them up later and see. Anything else?
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Help Please!
« Reply #2239 on: May 01, 2013, 08:29:56 PM »
I need 3 tickets for a wedding and tried searching AB flights through BA with no luck- anyone know how to do it better?

Round Trip
TLV-JFK (or Newark)
June 11-16
I've got 125k AMEX points

Thanks!

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For those who asked, there are currently no moderator tools for the wiki. Dan assumed that anyone with enough posts would know how to use it. He can probably raise the post count if neccesary, but anything else will likely require more custom coding

Just wondering: What was in the wiki?
If it was a personal flight request, it's been that way for a while...

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Just wondering: What was in the wiki?
If it was a personal flight request, it's been that way for a while...
It was that way until today thanks goodness

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It was that way until today thanks goodness

Didn't bother me for some reason. There are plenty of wikis that are run the same way by design.

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It was that way until today thanks goodness
You can edit the wiki yourself and just delete the flight info.

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Round trip. Any stops (but if stopping would prefer to stay in that place for a day or two).
From: MIA, FLL
To: TLV
Departure dates: June (1st week onward)
Return dates: July (we would like to be there for at least a month)
Class: Any
Seats: 2 Adults (1 Infant - Lap)
Alliance/Airline: Any

I have a lot of AMEX MR and Chase Points that are readily transferable.
I have searched ANA and United. I am looking for a flight where I can use the least amount of points and have found that united offers the 40k for one way + taxes.

Thank you for your help.
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Round trip. Any stops (but if stopping would prefer to stay in that place for a day or two).
From: MIA, FLL
To: TLV
Departure dates: June (1st week onward)
Return dates: July (we would like to be there for at least a month)
Class: Any
Seats: 2 Adults (1 Infant - Lap)
Alliance/Airline: Any

I have a lot of AMEX MR and Chase Points that are readily transferable.
I have searched ANA and United. I am looking for a flight where I can use the least amount of points and have found that united offers the 40k for one way + taxes.

Thank you for your help.
there are no direct flights from Mia to tlv
So in any case you will make a stop. And if you want your stop to be more than 24 hrs it would have to be 2 separate tickets so it won't be 40k ua points.
Your cheapest option in terms of points is with flying blue and I see availability there but the yq for the rt would be min 600$.
With ab it's 50k avios ow but no yq and they have availability departing jun 1.
But couldn't find anything yet for return.
Although it's 50k with the amex promo going on now it would only be 37500 Mr points so it's probably what you should be looking at
« Last Edit: May 02, 2013, 03:17:36 PM by smart brit »

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need 2 round trip non stop
NYC-HOU
5/30-6/03
leaving evening
Returning Morning

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Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Preferably Non stop but max one stop each way
From: NYC
To: HNL
Departure dates: May 26 or July 21
Return dates: June 2 or July 28
Class: Preferably First or Business, but would settle for coach if direct flight
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: I'm looking to transfer MR to Sigapore Airlines and book a flight on United

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 Multi-city
Prefer few stops as possible (senior)
TLV-BUF on 5/12/13
BUF-MIA on 5/20/13
MIA-TLV on 5/26/13
Class: Any
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: DONT CARE - Using MR points

I found UNITED award availability on the following flights and they work well with what we want but when I called UNITED I was told it was 150 points plus some other extra fees because it was within 21 days and a couple other add-ons.
From: TLV->EWR flight# 85 on 5/12/13
From: EWR->BUF flight #3886 on 5/12/13
From: BUF-> IAD flight# 4889 on 5/20/13
From IAD->MIA flight# 3905 on 5/20/13
From: MIA->EWR flight# 1415 on 5/26/13
From: EWR->TLV  flight# 84 on 5/26/13


I have a over 300k MR points that I'm capable of transferring. I thought that United has the best stopover policy (sorry if that was misinformation). When I called United they said that it was 150 points instead of the 80k. What am I missing here? I don't care what airline it's on. I just want the cheapest and most direct route for each segment (am I shooting for a star?? ::)) The ticket is for a senior and I just want it to be as simple as possible. Any help would be really appreciated! Thank you!!!!!!!
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You can't transfer Mr points to ua.
A stopover longer than 24 hrs will be considered a new trip with ua.