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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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You can't transfer Mr points to ua.
A stopover longer than 24 hrs will be considered a new trip with ua.
What if I transferred to ANA miles? Wouldn't I then be able to use those miles for UA award travel?
But tell me then, regardless if I use ANA or UA, so long as I stop for longer than 24 hours it would be considered a new ticket? That's not what was understood from previous postings I've read. Saw the posting about a dude that went to SA via TLV for 2 weeks...Or something to that effect. That's essentially what I'm trying to do. I was to utilize the 2 stopover thing.  Albeit though, I'm super new to the point usage thing so my "facts" might be a bit off. Sorry!
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if i have 110k Marco Polo points, and i want to fly JFK-HKG in business/first.

i see availability for one way in first and return in business (thru YVR)

what are my options?

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Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
From: CLE
To: TLV
Departure dates: June 20
Return dates: One Way
Class: Economy
Seats: One
Alliance/Airline: Any

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From:NYC
To: TLV
 
Departure dates: 5/12

Class: Business

Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with? Any
Airlines sending me "We're in this together" emails.

Bruh, where were you when my suitcase weighed it 51.50 pounds?

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Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Max one stop
From: All NYC airports
To: Tlv
Departure dates: June 16,17,18
Return dates:June 23,24
Class: Coach
Seats:1
Alliance: we have ba points (and city Ty points)

Tried finding at on ba website (was told to look for air Berlin) but confusing and not very helpfull (ones I found stopped in London each way=3 stops each way)

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Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Max one stop
From: All NYC airports
To: Tlv
Departure dates: June 16,17,18
Return dates:June 23,24
Class: Coach
Seats:1
Alliance: we have ba points (and city Ty points)

Tried finding at on ba website (was told to look for air Berlin) but confusing and not very helpfull (ones I found stopped in London each way=3 stops each way)
search on aa.com for availability on air Berlin it's very simple

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Ahhh, thanks!
Still trying with ba (was told I try each leg separately..) and getting nowhere..

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Ahhh, thanks!
Still trying with ba (was told I try each leg separately..) and getting nowhere..
probably nothing available for those dates with ab

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HKG-NYC  -   7/22 or 23 --- one way

preferably non stop - or 1 small stop

Class: Business/First

Alliance - any.

1 pax



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I am sure people here have done this, can you tell me how.  I would like to fly Singapore Airlines to LAX on 11/21/13 in business or first.  I plan to transfer AMEX MR to Singapore Air.  How can I search for availability first?  What should be my plan to secure the seats I am looking for.  Thanks.

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I am sure people here have done this, can you tell me how.  I would like to fly Singapore Airlines to LAX on 11/21/13 in business or first.  I plan to transfer AMEX MR to Singapore Air.  How can I search for availability first?  What should be my plan to secure the seats I am looking for.  Thanks.

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This is my second time posting this because the only answer i got was that I can't do more than a 24 hour stopover on UA.

 Multi-city
Prefer few stops as possible (senior)
TLV-BUF on 5/12/13
BUF-MIA on 5/20/13
MIA-TLV on 5/26/13
Class: Any
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: DONT CARE - Using MR points

I found UNITED award availability on the following flights and they work well with what we want but when I called UNITED I was told it was 150 points plus some other extra fees because it was within 21 days and a couple other add-ons.
From: TLV->EWR flight# 85 on 5/12/13
From: EWR->BUF flight #3886 on 5/12/13
From: BUF-> IAD flight# 4889 on 5/20/13
From IAD->MIA flight# 3905 on 5/20/13
From: MIA->EWR flight# 1415 on 5/26/13
From: EWR->TLV  flight# 84 on 5/26/13


I have a over 300k MR points that I'm capable of transferring. I thought that United has the best stopover policy (sorry if that was misinformation). When I called United they said that it was 150 points instead of the 80k. What am I missing here? I don't care what airline it's on. I just want the cheapest and most direct route for each segment (am I shooting for a star?? ) The ticket is for a senior and I just want it to be as simple as possible. What if I transferred to ANA miles? Wouldn't I then be able to use those miles for UA award travel?
But tell me then, regardless if I use ANA or UA, so long as I stop for longer than 24 hours it would be considered a new ticket? That's not what was understood from previous postings I've read. I saw a posting about a dude that went to SA via TLV for 2 weeks...Or something to that effect. That's essentially what I'm trying to do. I was to utilize the 2 stopover thing.  Albeit though, I'm super new to the point usage thing so my "facts" might be a bit off. Can someone please shed a bit of light on this?! THANK YOU!!!

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Yes but there it says I'll need nearly 500k points to fly in a suite. Does that make sense?

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I found this award availability on award nexus.  But I am not quite sure how to actually book it.  Can anyone please advise me how to transfer points to each of these airlines/programs?  Do I call Aeroplan to do it?  Or SQ?  Please help.  Thanks in advance.

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I found this award availability on award nexus.  But I am not quite sure how to actually book it.  Can anyone please advise me how to transfer points to each of these airlines/programs?  Do I call Aeroplan to do it?  Or SQ?  Please help.  Thanks in advance.
You could do it through Aeroplan, but you need to book RT with them and pay hefty YQ.

You transfer MR to Aeroplan and you could book it online. Don't transfer till you have everything worked out.