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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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UA.com wants $76 tax for that route, thus AC is charging the YQ on the LH flights, just like on the paid flight, and just as I said.
Thus the need for details and not mindless statements.
I will post a pic of Aeroplan breakdown as soon as aeroplan.com works for me.
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I will post a pic of Aeroplan breakdown as soon as aeroplan.com works for me.
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Interesting.
UA.com doesn't charge those first 3 line items, but I do owe you an apology as there's no YQ there.

So why does AC charge those extra fees though?
And I wonder if the fact that it's a mixed itinerary cause there to be a fuel-dump?
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Interesting.
UA.com doesn't charge those first 3 line items, but I do owe you an apology as there's no YQ there.

So why does AC charge those extra fees though?
And I wonder if the fact that it's a mixed itinerary cause there to be a fuel-dump?
I wondered the same thing, but AP kept crashing every time I tried to price FRA-TLV RT
Didn't AP charge more fees than UA even before the recent YQ?

Now if this would FD AC flights its major. Find an itin and Ill try to price it, I have an acct.
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« Reply #624 on: April 10, 2012, 06:32:42 PM »
And I wonder if the fact that it's a mixed itinerary cause there to be a fuel-dump?

I think that's the case. It happened to me once when booking a similar trip with money
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« Reply #625 on: April 11, 2012, 11:11:49 AM »
Looking for a mileage award TLV-LAX during the week of 7/22 I am a little flexible and would prefer using AA

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k found Econ tics ewr-tlv. if biz class becomes available would they allow me to change my Econ to Biz class??

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k found Econ tics ewr-tlv. if biz class becomes available would they allow me to change my Econ to Biz class??
look for Plan B
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what does that mean??

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One way/Round trip:RT
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: not more than 1 stop
From: nyc
To: bounos aires Argentina
Departure dates: april 22nd 23rd
Return dates: sep 13th or 12
Class: coach
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thanks a lot im a beginner to searching and couldn't find anything

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One way/Round trip:RT
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: not more than 1 stop
From: nyc
To: bounos aires Argentina
Departure dates: april 22nd 23rd
Return dates: sep 13th or 12
Class: coach
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: one world ( prefer lan chile)

thanks a lot im a beginner to searching and couldn't find anything
just fyi, United just began flying ewr-eze
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« Reply #632 on: April 12, 2012, 10:14:07 AM »
Looking to fly from JFK to lax from may 15 to may 20 direct flight no red eye
What's the price for first class and
Economy
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RT
BOS - CDG
Depart May 13
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Have 120k Amex - What are my options?
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looking for 3 business class seats this coming sunday or monday,22nd or 23rd from NYC-TLV,have amex/chase points,flexible for a stopover,any luck?was hoping to find something last minute,no luck so far other than a near 5 hour stopover on the 23rd with LH? thanks!

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RT
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Depart May 13
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Business
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Have 120k Amex - What are my options?
I believe Air France is the only airline that flies that route non stop
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I really could use some help.  Im trying to go to israel from new york (prefer newark)
july 4/5 departure
return july 22/23
6 seats
economy
willing to do stop over for a much better price. 

I saw 1600 united.

If anyone knows of any deals or work around like the australia expedia of a few months ago, please reply.  I am desperate to find a better route. 

thanks

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I really could use some help.  Im trying to go to israel from new york (prefer newark)
july 4/5 departure
return july 22/23
6 seats
economy
willing to do stop over for a much better price. 
I saw 1600 united.
If anyone knows of any deals or work around like the australia expedia of a few months ago, please reply.  I am desperate to find a better route price.(what's wrong with the route?) 
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Need 2 tickets and they should be direct.
Dates are 8/1 to 8/14 with 1 day of flex on both legs.
3 options for destinations
TLV to Rome
TLV to Milan
TLV to Milan, and then return from Rome

I can have miles in most airlines, so that shouldn't be an issue.

Thanks!