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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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One way/Round trip: One way
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: 1 stop MAX
From: TLV
To: NY/JFK
Departure dates: July 19th or 20th
Class: Coach would be best
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline:Any, but only have SPG


Looking for the shortest stop over with no fuel surcharge.
Any suggestions?

Found a good option on Austrian http://d.pr/i/1jkNq. Which Star Alliance partner is the best to transfer from SPG in terms of time to transfer and fuel surcharge?

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Found a good option on Austrian http://d.pr/i/1jkNq. Which Star Alliance partner is the best to transfer from SPG in terms of time to transfer and fuel surcharge?
I believe the only way to not pay YQ on that award would be via UA, which is a terrible SPG transfer.
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I believe the only way to not pay YQ on that award would be via UA.
That's correct. AC, and ANA charge YQ for Austrian.
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So what stop-over options are there using SPG without fuel surcharges? Doesn't seem like there is much?

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One way/Round trip: One way
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
From: TLV
To: CLE
Departure dates: 12/27
Class: Coach would be best
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline:Any

The way there I am using flying blue and stopping in Italy for a couple of days. Now need to find the best way back. Thanks!

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One way/Round trip: One way
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
From: TLV
To: CLE
Departure dates: 12/27
Class: Coach would be best
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline:Any

The way there I am using flying blue and stopping in Italy for a couple of days. Now need to find the best way back. Thanks!

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You have TLV-FRA-EWR-CLE or TLV-FRA-ORD-CLE using UA miles.
Thanks. A friend of mine with Elite Status was able to find a TLV-EWR-CLE that had Saver Award availability. What is interesting is that the EWR to CLE flight is the next day. I would probably just get that flight separate as I get my luggage anyways.

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So what stop-over options are there using SPG without fuel surcharges? Doesn't seem like there is much?
You can transfer 45k SPG to AA. With the current bonus, thatll get you the 65k AA for a standard award one-way TLV-PHL-(LGA or JFK). No fuel Surcharge.

ETA- with the $75 close-in fee (forgot about that) itll cost 65k AA + $124.46

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i have a ton of points and dont know how to use them.
Round trip:
Non-stop
From: CLE
To: FLL
Departure dates: Jan 14

Return dates: Jan 18
Class: Any
Seats: 4
Alliance/Airline: not sure
i have 1M Ultimate Rewards 70K United 40K BA 200K SPG i also can get MR if needed (i just dont know how to use them.)
thanks for your help
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i have a ton of points and dont know how to use them.
Round trip:
Non-stop
From: CLE
To: FLL
Departure dates: Jan 14

Return dates: Jan 18
Class: Any
Seats: 4
Alliance/Airline: not sure
i have 1M Ultimate Rewards 70K United 40K BA 200K SPG (i just dont know how to use them.)
thanks for your help
So you want someone to teach you or just tell you your best option? but you won't know how to book it.

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i have a ton of points and dont know how to use them.
Round trip:
Non-stop
From: CLE
To: FLL
Departure dates: Jan 14

Return dates: Jan 18
Class: Any
Seats: 4
Alliance/Airline: not sure
i have 1M Ultimate Rewards 70K United 40K BA 200K SPG (i just dont know how to use them.)
thanks for your help
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i have a ton of points and dont know how to use them.
Round trip:
Non-stop
From: CLE
To: FLL
Departure dates: Jan 14

Return dates: Jan 18
Class: Any
Seats: 4
Alliance/Airline: not sure
i have 1M Ultimate Rewards 70K United 40K BA 200K SPG (i just dont know how to use them.)
thanks for your help

You may be able to book round trip American Airlines with your BA points.
Then, with your 1M Ultimate Rewards, you can transfer some to Hyatt and stay in a nice Hyatt Regency Suite in Miami
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You may be able to book round trip American Airlines with your BA points.
Then, with your 1M Ultimate Rewards, you can transfer some to Hyatt and stay in a nice Hyatt Regency Suite in Miami
Or use SPG for the St Regis.

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thanks,
i can move into the St. Regis for a few weeks if i wanted to. i just need to get there.
i am actually going on a cruise.
and i checked BA and didnt see any non stop to FLL.
i have never been down there, if miami is an easy option let me know.
you dont have to teach me just let me know if there is anything available.
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thanks,
i can move into the St. Regis for a few weeks if i wanted to. i just need to get there.
i am actually going on a cruise.
and i checked BA and didnt see any non stop to FLL.
i have never been down there, if miami is an easy option let me know.
you dont have to teach me just let me know if there is anything available.
thanks

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