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(If you are looking to purchase a paid ticket, please post here)

FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



Author Topic: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)  (Read 922083 times)

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One way/
Non-stop or Maximum stops 1
From: CDG ORLY
To: JFK, LGA, EWR
08/12/15 only
Business/Coach/Anys
seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: any
looking for mileage ticket without fuel surcharge

thx

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Im not sure if this is the right thread....

Anyone else having trouble lately finding ba availability when aa is clearly showing lots of saver awards?
I recently ran into this problem several times.

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Im not sure if this is the right thread....

Anyone else having trouble lately finding ba availability when aa is clearly showing lots of saver awards?
I recently ran into this problem several times.



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One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: 1 stop
From: All airports from which you can depart: JFK, EWR,
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line: TLV
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible. 08/25/ or 08/26 (need to be in Israel by Thursday afternoon)
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One way tickets 08/29 or 08/30
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any Prefer Business
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2 1
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with any (I have starwood, chase, aa, and amex points)

Offering to pay reasonable finders fee for help with this ticket. Please let me know what you think is reasonable.

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One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: 1 stop
From: All airports from which you can depart: JFK, EWR,
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line: TLV
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible. 08/25/ or 08/26 (need to be in Israel by Thursday afternoon)
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One way tickets 08/29 or 08/30
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any Prefer Business
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2 1
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with any (I have starwood, chase, aa, and amex points)

Offering to pay reasonable finders fee for help with this ticket. Please let me know what you think is reasonable.
What have you found so far?

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One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: 1 stop
From: All airports from which you can depart: JFK, EWR,
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line: TLV
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible. 08/25/ or 08/26 (need to be in Israel by Thursday afternoon)
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One way tickets 08/29 or 08/30
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any Prefer Business
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2 1
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with any (I have starwood, chase, aa, and amex points)

Offering to pay reasonable finders fee for help with this ticket. Please let me know what you think is reasonable.

Here's from a quick search.

Outbound - On Wednesday you have JFK-YYZ-TLV on Air Canada in Business (You land in TLV 10am on Thursday)
Or you can transfer MR to EL AL who has a direct flight available in J JFK-TLV 8/25 1pm flight. 8/26
Return - You might have on Sunday or Monday morning TLV-IST-Cairo-JFK on Turkish-Turkish-Egypt Air. Pending verification.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2015, 11:48:40 PM by chucksterace »
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I'm trying to go to lih during the busy season :).
I managed to get the Hyatt reserved with free nights even though they were booked by huca to the hotel directly.
For the return flight I have set up a united plan B.
Thanks Dan for the clear instructions!

Now all I desperately need is to somehow get there.
Heres what I'm missing:
One way (multi city)
One stop in lax for shabbos
From: NYC (prefer ewr as I will be returning there)
To: lih
Departure dates: July 29-31 (perfer 7/30) leave lax to lih August 2nd prefer morning

Class: perfer First/Business, coach bdieved.
Seats:  2
Alliance/Airline: any
airline status -United cc

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  • Location: New York
One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: 1
From: JFK or Newark
To: Tel Aviv
Departure dates: August 3rd
Return airports: JFK or Newark
Return dates: August 12th
Class: Any
Seats:  2
Alliance/Airline: Any


I have 105K chase ink business bold points. Please advice how and where to use them to purchase the tickets. Thank you

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One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: 1
From: JFK or Newark
To: Tel Aviv
Departure dates: August 3rd
Return airports: JFK or Newark
Return dates: August 12th
Class: Any
Seats:  2
Alliance/Airline: Any


I have 105K chase ink business bold points. Please advice how and where to use them to purchase the tickets. Thank you
105 chase in not going to be enough for 2 RT tickets tlv-nyc

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Multi
Stops Any:
From: Lax
To: sin, then cns, then mel, then bne, then lax
Departure dates: Can leave anytime in March & return anytime in April. We need to be in cns march 17-24

Return dates: any day in April
Class: First for international any for AU domestic
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: AA, Delta, Singapore

Thank you so much for the help. My head is about to explode!  :o

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  • Location: near San Francisco, CA
One way/Round trip: Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Max 2 stops, prefer 1
From: TLV
To: SFO or SJC
Departure dates: Aug 2, 2015 through Aug 6, 2015
Return airports: Same
Return dates: Aug. 23, 2015 through Aug 27, 2015; Aug 30, 2015; Aug 31, 2015
Class: First/Business preferred; Coach OK especially for shorter segments
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: StarAlliance

I have United CC that gives extended seat availability.

I have ~400K Chase UR points and ~40K United points, split between two spouse accounts.  I also have about 100K AA miles, 105K SPG points, also split between two spouse accounts.

Based on United.com availability (or lack thereof into SFO/SJC) for those dates, I was thinking about the following options:

1. R/T Business award ticket on United.com to JFK or IAD or PHL or ...; paid coach from there to SFO/SJC.  Is it possible to combine an award ticket with a final paid segment so the bags will be checked all the way to SFO/SJC from TLV? The travelers don't speak English and are seniors.
2. Wait for R/T Business or Coach award seats to open up closer to the date.  This is risky, because they may not open up.  Again, the travels are seniors and may not do well with last minute travel.

I'm a relative newbie to working with miles.  Anyone have some ideas?

Thank you in advance!
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Will pay 20$ to someone who can find the right flight
« Reply #6761 on: July 09, 2015, 08:36:53 AM »
in unrelated accounts I have available 130k UR, 76k UR, 100k United, 30k united, 40k amex.

For 2 people:
ORD-TLV July 23
TLV-ORD- Aug 4

Must be business class
Can fly out or return to boston, toronto, detroit. Generally trying to avoid going through the jfk/iad airport.
Total trip time should be under 20 hours if possible.

It's for a relative, so i think im hitting all the necessities. I may have forgotten something though.

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One way/Round trip: Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Max 2 stops, prefer 1
From: TLV
To: SFO or SJC
Departure dates: Aug 2, 2015 through Aug 6, 2015
Return airports: Same
Return dates: Aug. 23, 2015 through Aug 27, 2015; Aug 30, 2015; Aug 31, 2015
Class: First/Business preferred; Coach OK especially for shorter segments
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: StarAlliance

I have United CC that gives extended seat availability.

I have ~400K Chase UR points and ~40K United points, split between two spouse accounts.  I also have about 100K AA miles, 105K SPG points, also split between two spouse accounts.

Based on United.com availability (or lack thereof into SFO/SJC) for those dates, I was thinking about the following options:

1. R/T Business award ticket on United.com to JFK or IAD or PHL or ...; paid coach from there to SFO/SJC.  Is it possible to combine an award ticket with a final paid segment so the bags will be checked all the way to SFO/SJC from TLV? The travelers don't speak English and are seniors.
2. Wait for R/T Business or Coach award seats to open up closer to the date.  This is risky, because they may not open up.  Again, the travels are seniors and may not do well with last minute travel.

I'm a relative newbie to working with miles.  Anyone have some ideas?

Thank you in advance!
1) cmmiw in nyc (i don't know about phl, Iad though I assume the same) you'll  always have to pick up your bags even if it's "pieced together".
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One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:Non-Stop, 1 stop if in business class
From: NYC
To: TLV
Departure dates: Sep 23-24 (after yom kipper ends)
Return dates: Oct 6 late evening or oct 7th
Class:: First/Business preferred; Coach OK
Seats: 2 adults, 1 Child
Alliance/Airline: no preference

I have 250k UR points, 50k avios, 70k Amex, 50k united

Thanks in advance

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  • Location: Baltimore
One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Non-stop
From: BWI (ideal) or IAD (2nd choice)
To: LAX, BUR
Departure dates:8/19/15 (PM)
Return dates: 8/23/15 (but 2 seats prefer 8/22/15, late PM, if possible)
Class: Any
Seats: 3
Alliance/Airline:

I'm brand new to redeeming miles, but I have a lot of points with: Southwest, Lufthansa, United, Starpoints
Some points with: JetBlue, Chase Ultimate Rewards

(Would it be bad to post exactly how many I have? Is that like posting your bank account info?)

Another fact is that we will be travelling with a baby. TIA