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(If you are looking to purchase a paid ticket, please post here)

FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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Looking for the most affordable (off peak? promo? etc) award flights to BCN while still preserving plenty of miles for Brazil later this year.

Round trip
No stop maxes
Depart: MSP or RST or possibly ORD
To: BCN
Depart May 22-25
Return May 26-29 (looking for a 3-6 day short trip over Memorial Day weekend)
Class: Coach/Any
Seats: 2
Available Miles: 70k UA, 39k SPG, 51k Amex MR, 46k Chase UR, 63k AAdvantage, soon to have 52k BA Avios

I know this is sort of tough to find two tickets on limited miles but the knowledge on this board is so immense there might be something I'm forgetting. Thanks!

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NYC to TLV
Wanna leave may 8 @night return may 13 @night
Business/first

Thanks

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One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
From: All airports from which you can depart: Ord
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line: Zrh,tlv
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible. July1
Return dates: Delete this line for One way tickets: July 5 from Zrh anytime the next week from tlv
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any: Coach
Total number of people traveling over the age of 2: 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with. American miles. I do not want to pay for BA fuel surcharges

We have a wedding on July 3 in Zurich in the afternoon. I am looking to go for a saaver award in coach. (or business saver) The best option would be to connect on the JFK flight Sunday night but they only have 60,000 mile awards. I am open to spending shabbos in NY before the flight. I am
Happy to fly to almost any city in Europe on the way there. After the wedding we would like to go to Israel (thursday) until tues- wed of the next week.  Anyone have any ideas? Thanks

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One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
From: All airports from which you can depart: Ord
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line: Zrh,tlv
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible. July1
Return dates: Delete this line for One way tickets: July 5 from Zrh anytime the next week from tlv
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any: Coach
Total number of people traveling over the age of 2: 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with. American miles. I do not want to pay for BA fuel surcharges

We have a wedding on July 3 in Zurich in the afternoon. I am looking to go for a saaver award in coach. (or business saver) The best option would be to connect on the JFK flight Sunday night but they only have 60,000 mile awards. I am open to spending shabbos in NY before the flight. I am
Happy to fly to almost any city in Europe on the way there. After the wedding we would like to go to Israel (thursday) until tues- wed of the next week.  Anyone have any ideas? Thanks
Is arriving the morning of the wedding not on option?
Direct flight on the 2nd is available.

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Looking to book 3 award tickets to either Maui or Kauai from ORD sometime in August using BA miles. We can't stay in Hawaii for shabbas so ideally we would like to arrive there on a sunday and leave on thursday sometime. I searched AA.com and saw barely any availability and not for the days I needed. Am I doing something wrong? Or is this the issue:
Too many Jews with Avios :D
Also, if there is availibility for economy miles sAAver and not off peak economy miles sAAver, how much more Avios will that cost?
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Looking to book 3 award tickets to either Maui or Kauai sometime in August using BA miles. We can't stay in Hawaii for shabbas so ideally we would like to arrive there on a sunday and leave on thursday sometime. I searched AA.com and saw barely any availability and not for the days I needed. Am I doing something wrong? Or is this the issue: Also, if there is availibility for economy miles sAAver and not off peak economy miles sAAver, how much more Avios will that cost?
Saying your departure city would help
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Trying to figure out the taxes on UA's EWR-AMS flight using ANA miles.  Specific dates would be 5/23-5/28. 

I know the flight is available for 43k points via ANA's tool, but can't see the taxes unless I transfer in points from Amex and I'm concerned about the $1000+ fuel surcharges slapped on some ANA redemptions nowadays.

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Is arriving the morning of the wedding not on option?
Direct flight on the 2nd is available.
I think it is cutting it a little close as its an afternoon wedding, going all the way to Zurich and coming late to the wedding wouldn't be great. I know I saw that too. Maybe how safe do you think that is? Also this leaves us practically no time in Zurich to explore once we get there

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Trying to figure out the taxes on UA's EWR-AMS flight using ANA miles.  Specific dates would be 5/23-5/28. 

I know the flight is available for 43k points via ANA's tool, but can't see the taxes unless I transfer in points from Amex and I'm concerned about the $1000+ fuel surcharges slapped on some ANA redemptions nowadays.
Welcome to DDF.
You'll have to PUTPAC ANA to find that out.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Welcome to DDF.
You'll have to PUTPAC ANA to find that out.

Ah yes, that whole logical thing to do.  Turns out I'm looking at $589 in taxes/fees - ouch.  Are there any carriers that ANA doesn't charge YQ on (similar to Aeroplan, which I believe still doesn't for flights on United)?  If not then its looking like pretty slim pickings for Amex transfer partners

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Ah yes, that whole logical thing to do.  Turns out I'm looking at $589 in taxes/fees - ouch.  Are there any carriers that ANA doesn't charge YQ on (similar to Aeroplan, which I believe still doesn't for flights on United)?  If not then its looking like pretty slim pickings for Amex transfer partners
You can transfer to aeroplan
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You can transfer to aeroplan

Yep, just got off the phone with them and transferring to Aeroplan its ~$90 in taxes (and 60k points) instead of ANA's $589 in taxes and 43k miles.  17k MR points aren't worth $500 to me, so Aeroplan is the correct play.  Thanks guys.

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Round trip:
Non-stop:
From: (In order of preference) EWR, LGA
To: (In order of preference) MCO, FLL, MIA
Departure dates:Sunday - 6/03, AM
Return airports: (In order of preference) FLL, MIA, MCO
Return dates:Friday -  6/08, AM
Class: Coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: All my miles are currently still with Starwood, so any airline that i can transfer them to is fine.

Thank in advance!!


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Assuming you want coach:
UA.com shows EWR-SJO-PTY-MAO on 08/05.  You can also fly the week before and stopover for shabbos in SJO or PTY.
AA.com shows LGA-CLT-MIA-MAO on 08/07
I ended up switching around the order. July 30 from NYC to ASU Paraguay through PTY for 30k united. Its a 5 hour bus ride to Iguazu falls from there and there is a Sheraton in Asuncion. Return Aug 16 MAO to NYC via PTY also 30k.
 AA would only charge 20k since it is Aug 16 and on but they have 0 availabilty. I feel like I am missing out on my free stopovers though as on Aug 12 I want to fly from Rio to MAO but TAM is not showing anything open.

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Need help asap please

i am looking for a specific flight which im having a hard time finding.

United Airlines:
5/7 - CLE 8:44am-ORD 10:29am -PVG

5/13 - PVG 10:15am - NRT 5:20pm - YYZ 6:15 pm - CLE

RT i can not find. i found the return flight by checking one way and it was 32,500 miles and i cant find the outbound which should be 65,000

weird thing is that i did find the first leg of the outbound flight if checking from CLE - ORD. but if i check to PVG than i dont see it anymore

if someone can help that would be gratefully appreciated!
thanx

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97,000 miles on a coach ticket?

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97,000 miles on a coach ticket?
97,500 - is that too much?  :-\

its not for me though, its for a relative and the relative has a reservation booked on that flight and id trying to bring along someone else.

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97,500 - is that too much?  :-\

its not for me though, its for a relative and the relative has a reservation booked on that flight and id trying to bring along someone else.
I guess not judging by paid tix. Wow, they're expensive...

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Need help asap please

i am looking for a specific flight which im having a hard time finding.

United Airlines:
5/7 - CLE 8:44am-ORD 10:29am -PVG

5/13 - PVG 10:15am - NRT 5:20pm - YYZ 6:15 pm - CLE

RT i can not find. i found the return flight by checking one way and it was 32,500 miles and i cant find the outbound which should be 65,000

weird thing is that i did find the first leg of the outbound flight if checking from CLE - ORD. but if i check to PVG than i dont see it anymore

if someone can help that would be gratefully appreciated!
thanx

the flight outbound is booooked solid!!! sorry :(
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One way economy from TLV-LAX with a stop in LHR - 1 pax
TLV-LHR  around July 1st
LHR-LAX around July 18th
Flexible +/- a few days.
Have miles in all alliances.
Is it possible to get a free stopover in LHR or do I need to pay for each leg individually?
Thanx for your help.
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