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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6915 on: September 03, 2015, 04:56:16 AM »
One way/Round trip: OW
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
From: AUH
To: LHR, BRS
Departure dates: We arrive at AUH on 9/15/15 at 19:40, so very late that day or 9/16/15 as early as possible; will try to be flexible, but trying for these dates
Class: Coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline:
AA - 105k
DL - 35k
BA - 11k
UR - 110k (would rather save these for Hyatt stays)
MR - 205k

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6916 on: September 03, 2015, 05:07:53 AM »
one way
phx to ewr
I have chase ur points
united miles
amex points.
sunday may 1st
direct flights
for 2 people
whats the best option to book?

TIA
Delta for 12.5k pp to JFK (transfer the points from MR). Nothing available on United (only points option to Newark). Also nothing available on AA.

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6917 on: September 03, 2015, 05:42:54 AM »
One way/Round trip: OW
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
From: AUH
To: LHR, BRS
Departure dates: We arrive at AUH on 9/15/15 at 19:40, so very late that day or 9/16/15 as early as possible; will try to be flexible, but trying for these dates
Class: Coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline:
AA - 105k
DL - 35k
BA - 11k
UR - 110k (would rather save these for Hyatt stays)
MR - 205k

Thanks for your help!

Gulf Air probably has availability via BAH, though the only way for me to check would be to call up. Would be 20k pp with aa or 24.5k with ba. One advantage of booking with ba would be no additional $75 close in fee. Also keep in mind that even if there isn't economy availability with GF, there is almost certainly business available with GF, which is not a terrible value at 30k aa.

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6918 on: September 03, 2015, 05:57:01 AM »
Gulf Air probably has availability via BAH, though the only way for me to check would be to call up. Would be 20k pp with aa or 24.5k with ba. One advantage of booking with ba would be no additional $75 close in fee. Also keep in mind that even if there isn't economy availability with GF, there is almost certainly business available with GF, which is not a terrible value at 30k aa.
Thanks.  I just found BA for 16.5k + $73 pax AUH-STR-LHR with AB and BA.  What do you think?  Cash is $398 pax so award is definitely the go-to.  BA seems to be better choice between AA/BA because of close-in fee and more AA miles.  Have any other options, or should I just jump on this?
Also, is the way AA works this: economy-20k, biz-30k, first-40k for middle east to europe?

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6919 on: September 03, 2015, 06:06:35 AM »
Looking for help booking this trip with miles/points. Please let me know if you have any thoughts. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

One Way/Round trip:Round trip
Non-Stop/Maximum Stops/Any:  Nonstop
From: JFK
To: PUJ
Departure dates: 10/29
Return dates: 11/1 or 11/2
Class: Any
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: No Preference

I see Delta and Jetblue have direct flights. I have ample UR & MR points to use. I also have about 30k skymiles and 28k Emirates Miles which expire soon.


Truthfully a paid ticket may be the best option, though for your way back on the 2nd, Delta has your seats available. It's 15k Delta or Flying Blue miles per person.

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« Reply #6920 on: September 03, 2015, 06:11:42 AM »
Thanks.  I just found BA for 16.5k + $73 pax AUH-STR-LHR with AB and BA.  What do you think?  Cash is $398 pax so award is definitely the go-to.  BA seems to be better choice between AA/BA because of close-in fee and more AA miles.  Have any other options, or should I just jump on this?
Also, is the way AA works this: economy-20k, biz-30k, first-40k for middle east to europe?
Nice find. That definitely looks like the cheapest option. And yes, that's how AA works.

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6921 on: September 03, 2015, 06:13:50 AM »
Nice find. That definitely looks like the cheapest option. And yes, that's how AA works.
Awesome.  Booking now.  Thanks for your time.

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6922 on: September 03, 2015, 06:16:47 AM »
 
Awesome.  Booking now.  Thanks for your time.
You're welcome. Personally I'd try to hold out for Etihad Apartment availability, but great! ;D

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6923 on: September 03, 2015, 06:18:43 AM »
Personally I'd try to hold out for Etihad Apartment availability, but great! ;D
That's our LHR-AUH flight 9/21! ;D Trust me, I've been looking for the AUH-LHR flight on EY11, but the former was all I could find for the past month for 2 people.

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« Reply #6924 on: September 03, 2015, 06:23:54 AM »
That's our LHR-AUH flight 9/21! ;D Trust me, I've been looking for the AUH-LHR flight on EY11, but the former was all I could find for the past month for 2 people.
Nice! Enjoy!

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6925 on: September 03, 2015, 06:25:36 AM »
Wanna help me out on this one?  :P

One way/Round trip: Either
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
From: LHR or close proximity airport
To: MUC
Departure dates: 9/18 afternoon or later or 9/19 early
Return date: must be at the latest late evening 9/20 or 9/21 super early as our EY12 LHR-AUH is 9/21 at 9:30am
Class: Coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline:
AA - 105k
DL - 35k
BA - 11k
UR - 110k (would rather save these for Hyatt stays)
MR - 205k

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« Reply #6926 on: September 03, 2015, 07:29:07 AM »
Sorry I don't have any groundbreaking ideas for this one. 
Maybe BA will open up closer to your dates.

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6927 on: September 03, 2015, 05:21:39 PM »
What should be my best option if I want to book an award ticket to Israel economy class?
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« Reply #6928 on: September 03, 2015, 05:32:04 PM »
What should be my best option if I want to book an award ticket to Israel economy class?

Depends. With economy to Israel, mileage flights are frequently a poorer value than paid flights. Anyway, cheapest way with points for nonstop I'm pretty sure is 37.5k Singapore miles on United. For 1 stop, I'm pretty sure is 30k BA on Air Berlin Via DUS, TXL, and maybe MUC. With multiple stops, for a large part of the year you can fly for 20k AA plus an approx. $70 cash ticket. All my numbers are for one way travel.

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #6929 on: September 03, 2015, 07:06:55 PM »
one way
phx to ewr
I have chase ur points
united miles
amex points.
sunday may 1st
direct flights
for 2 people
whats the best option to book?

TIA

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