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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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so i guess other TAs have for less ironic as that is considering u getn the same prices

anyway 2 places quoted LOT for less   just saying

I can match or beat them. (and not nessicarily do we get it as same prices)   
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I posted last week that I am looking for a flight to Israel from NYC (or for that matter ANY of the surrounding states) and that  tickets are just CRAZY- $1300+!  And that there doesn't seem to be any mileage availability either...

Now, since I haven't received any assistance from you maven's out here, I had to resort to breaking my head and figuring that the most problematic part of all the flights via Europe (I gave up on direct -that's like waaay out there!) is not  the Europe-TLV segment, but rather the transatlantic segment (from the USA to Europe).

Case in point, I found tickets from a tad over $200 from eastern Europe to TLV one way.

Now my question to all you DDF's, from where in US and to where in Europe can I fly to get a really cheap deal?  ANYWHERE?!

I have lot's of miles/points.  Anything available ANYWHERE in freaking Europe?

I'll transfer airports by train, bus, horse,.......Just get me to the Holy Land (w/o emptying my wallet)!

Yasherkoach to anyone with any helpful suggestions!

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I posted last week that I am looking for a flight to Israel from NYC (or for that matter ANY of the surrounding states) and that  tickets are just CRAZY- $1300+!  And that there doesn't seem to be any mileage availability either...

Now, since I haven't received any assistance from you maven's out here, I had to resort to breaking my head and figuring that the most problematic part of all the flights via Europe (I gave up on direct -that's like waaay out there!) is not  the Europe-TLV segment, but rather the transatlantic segment (from the USA to Europe).

Case in point, I found tickets from a tad over $200 from eastern Europe to TLV one way.

Now my question to all you DDF's, from where in US and to where in Europe can I fly to get a really cheap deal?  ANYWHERE?!

I have lot's of miles/points.  Anything available ANYWHERE in freaking Europe?

I'll transfer airports by train, bus, horse,.......Just get me to the Holy Land (w/o emptying my wallet)!
Use 25,000 british miles and $100 for round trip Boston-Dublin on Aer Lingus.
Both Expertflyer & united.com show false negative avaiiability, and there's no way to book it online.

There are no viable flights from DUB to TLV, but 4500 BA will get u to BSL etc
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Use 25,000 british miles and $100 for round trip Boston-Dublin on Aer Lingus.
Both Expertflyer & united.com show false negative avaiiability, and there's no way to book it online.

There are no viable flights from DUB to TLV, but 4500 BA will get u to BSL etc

Where's BSL?

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Where's BSL?
France, Germany, & Switzerland

Point is u need a flight from Dublin to wherever u found that $200 EU-TLV
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France, Germany, & Switzerland

Point is u need a flight from Dublin to wherever u found that $200 EU-TLV
It was Istanbul where i found that flight...

Anywhere else you know of with similar deals?

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I posted last week that I am looking for a flight to Israel from NYC (or for that matter ANY of the surrounding states) and that  tickets are just CRAZY- $1300+!  And that there doesn't seem to be any mileage availability either...

Now, since I haven't received any assistance from you maven's out here, I had to resort to breaking my head and figuring that the most problematic part of all the flights via Europe (I gave up on direct -that's like waaay out there!) is not  the Europe-TLV segment, but rather the transatlantic segment (from the USA to Europe).

Case in point, I found tickets from a tad over $200 from eastern Europe to TLV one way.

Now my question to all you DDF's, from where in US and to where in Europe can I fly to get a really cheap deal?  ANYWHERE?!

I have lot's of miles/points.  Anything available ANYWHERE in freaking Europe?

I'll transfer airports by train, bus, horse,.......Just get me to the Holy Land (w/o emptying my wallet)!

Yasherkoach to anyone with any helpful suggestions!

BTW, my dates are:  Departing USA June 24-28, Returning from TLV July 9-18

P.P.S. Any good way to return from TLV via HKG with points?  Who's points are best to use for that route?

Thanks again!

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BTW, my dates are:  Departing USA June 24-28, Returning from TLV July 9-18

P.P.S. Any good way to return from TLV via HKG with points?  Who's points are best to use for that route?

Thanks again!
40k UA if u wanna stop for less than 24 hours.

AF presuambly should work too (korean metal) but I never tried.

There's cheap flights on easyjet from basel, geneva, o2 from manchester, jetairfly from Leige and some others.
The Aer lingus is the same 25k from MCO to DUB and 40k from ORD & JFK to DUB
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40k UA if u wanna stop for less than 24 hours.

AF presuambly should work too (korean metal) but I never tried.

There's cheap flights on easyjet from basel, geneva, o2 from manchester, jetairfly from Leige and some others.
The Aer lingus is the same 25k from MCO to DUB and 40k from ORD & JFK to DUB
Wow! Thank you so much for the info!  G-d bless you!

I'd like to stay in HKG for a week or 2.. What do you suggest?

(btw, o2? whas' that?)

Also you wrote "There are no viable flights from DUB to TLV, but 4500 BA will get u to BSL etc".
I just checked on BA.com, from Dublin to Basel 9000 Avios OW + $101.06!
So where'd you get your info?
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40k UA if u wanna stop for less than 24 hours.

You've booked TLV-US via HKG with UA?

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You've booked TLV-US via HKG with UA?
NY-HKG-TLV, can't remember 100% if I ended up ticketing it, but when done by put on hold by phone doesn't require a manual pricing or anything.
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Wow! Thank you so much for the info!  G-d bless you!
Amen!
I'd like to stay in HKG for a week or 2.. What do you suggest?
officially united doesn't allow a stopover on a one way ticket. You can try forcing if through though. Other than that its just 2 tickets, but u might as well just make one round trip where u can have a stopover I.e instead of paying 80k for TlV-hkg + hkg-nyc, buy tlv-hkg-nyc-tlv for 80.
You can also subsitute the return for a lower price - tlv-hkg-nyc-europe, which is only 70k.
Maybe even tlv-hkg-nyc-US Domestic, which would be 52.5k although AFAIK not officially allowed.
(btw, o2? whas' that?)
A low cost carrier that flies MAN-TLV
Also you wrote "There are no viable flights from DUB to TLV, but 4500 BA will get u to BSL etc".
I just checked on BA.com, from Dublin to Basel 9000 Avios OW + $101.06!
So where'd you get your info?
Again, Aer Lingus flight don't show up on BA.com. BA calculates per segment, so as long as its a flight under 600 miles it will always cost 4500 avios. I'm pretty sure aer lingus operates DUB-BSL, so if that flight is available it shall be 4500 avios. You can also add it to the same ticket. Otherwise use momonodo.com to find ryanair and the like, there's an abundance in DUB.



The real problem is that all the low cost carriers from TLV to EU leave in the afternoon, and there's no way to catch any of the DUB-USA flights without spending the night in Europe. I believe now with Pegasus it will work, but it will require an additional flight as there is no service SAW-DUB, so we would need something like TLV-SAW-ZRH-DUB-BOS.
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Use 25,000 british miles and $100 for round trip Boston-Dublin on Aer Lingus.
Both Expertflyer & united.com show false negative avaiiability, and there's no way to book it online.
And, that'll be half that for o/w?

Oh btw, RyanAir doesn't fly from Dublin to Switzerland  ;) (they don't fly to Switzerland -period) , only AerLingus does...

Thanks again!

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And, that'll be half that for o/w?

Oh btw, RyanAir doesn't fly to Switzerland  ;) , only AerLingus does...

Thanks again!
Yes, but the $100 will probably stay about the same.
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And, that'll be half that for o/w?

Oh btw, RyanAir doesn't fly from Dublin to Switzerland  ;) (they don't fly to Switzerland -period) , only AerLingus does...

Thanks again!
maybe easyjet?
Anyway it would probably be cheaper on jetairfly from LGG, but you'd have to fly DUB-BRU & take a bus from there.

Please report back on your experience!
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maybe easyjet?
Anyway it would probably be cheaper on jetairfly from LGG, but you'd have to fly DUB-BRU & take a bus from there.

Please report back on your experience!
Iy'H!
EasyJet is Approx $100+, JetAirFly is approx. $200

EasyJet doesn't fly from Dublin.

Ever flew (or know anyone who did) EasyJet?  Are they really tough on the luggage? 
Are they a-la-Spirit, nickeling and diming you every step of the way?
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Iy'H!
EasyJet is Approx $100+, JetAirFly is approx. $200

EasyJet doesn't fly from Dublin.

Ever flew (or know anyone who did) EasyJet?  Are they really tough on the luggage? 
Are they a-la-Spirit, nickeling and diming you every step of the way?
they do nickle and dime, but the experience is reasonable.
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Use 25,000 british miles and $100 for round trip Boston-Dublin on Aer Lingus.
Both Expertflyer & united.com show false negative avaiiability, and there's no way to book it online.

There are no viable flights from DUB to TLV, but 4500 BA will get u to BSL etc
I called BA, rep. says there's no availability in economy (on aer lingua) Boston-Dublin the whole week.. -Last week of June.

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I called BA, rep. says there's no availability in economy (on aer lingua) Boston-Dublin the whole week.. -Last week of June.
The Aer lingus is the same 25k from MCO to DUB and 40k from ORD & JFK to DUB
Also business class (double economy) is also cheaper than a regular ticket.
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Hi hoping someone can help. I am a graduating law student, and am trying to book a vacation, for after the bar.

One way
Non-stop
FROM: Any NY airport
TO: ROME
Hoping to fly specifically on August 26th or Monday.
Prefer business, but willing to fly coach
2 seats, and 1 child under the age of 2
I have miles on United, UR miles and MR miles