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(If you are looking to purchase a paid ticket, please post here)

FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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...am trying to book a vacation, for after the bar.

One way


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Also business class (double economy) is also cheaper than a regular ticket.
Rep says they don't fly from MCO, only from BOS, ORD & JFK.

No availability from ORD in economy either- the whole last week of June!
She claims its 20k each way from boston, and 25from ord...

And business would be 80k RT!

So now I'm back to square one, any other cheap way to Europe?

All I need is a flight to Europe, from there to TLV there bH seems to be a few options.

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Use 25,000 british miles and $100 for round trip Boston-Dublin on Aer Lingus.
Both Expertflyer & united.com show false negative avaiiability, and there's no way to book it online.

There are no viable flights from DUB to TLV, but 4500 BA will get u to BSL etc
the only way to even see lingus availability is to call BA?

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Rep says they don't fly from MCO, only from BOS, ORD & JFK.

No availability from ORD in economy either- the whole last week of June!
She claims its 20k each way from boston, and 25from ord...

And business would be 80k RT!

So now I'm back to square one, any other cheap way to Europe?

All I need is a flight to Europe, from there to TLV there bH seems to be a few options.
They do fly from MCO to DUB, just look on aerlingus.com. Makes me wonder if the reps know what they're talking about when they say nothing is available.
Boston-Dublin is 12.5k each way, no matter what she thinks (unless they change it in the past week). Business from BOS is 25k each way. 
the only way to even see lingus availability is to call BA?
United.com & EF show it, but there's false negative.
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They do fly from MCO to DUB, just look on aerlingus.com. Makes me wonder if the reps know what they're talking about when they say nothing is available.
Boston-Dublin is 12.5k each way, no matter what she thinks (unless they change it in the past week). Business from BOS is 25k each way.  United.com & EF show it, but there's false negative.
What do you do with these BA guys?  Till you get a person on the line takes a good half hour, and when they are on they are extremely rude, 'how dare you even question anything they say', very nasty .. nut-jobs.

Know of any other cheap routes?

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Don't know of any way around the hold time, but I do believe it gets better later in the day.
The idea is to spell out to them exactly what u want (EI flight #856 on 06/25 from MCO to DUB), and just wait for the computer to price it out correctly.
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Don't know of any way around the hold time, but I do believe it gets better later in the day.
The idea is to spell out to them exactly what u want (EI flight #856 on 06/25 from MCO to DUB), and just wait for the computer to price it out correctly.
How do I know if that flight (for example "(EI flight #856 on 06/25 from MCO to DUB)") or any other specific flight that I am to enumerate to them has availability?

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How do I know if that flight (for example "(EI flight #856 on 06/25 from MCO to DUB)") or any other specific flight that I am to enumerate to them has availability?
Its an easier way than asking them to check MCO-DUN...
United.com (award search) and expertflyer often show availability.
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Its an easier way than asking them to check MCO-DUN...
United.com (award search) and expertflyer often show availability.
Got a nice lady this time, as I was talking to her I was checking UA -no availability.

She says that there's no availability either  :(

I'm not subscribed to expertflyer.

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One way/Round trip: RT
Maximum stops: any
From: nyc
To: TLV
Departure dates: june 26 (or close)
Return dates: august 19 (or close)
Class: economy
Seats: 2
Mileage/Alliance: any (minimum surcharges)

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One way/Round trip: RT
Maximum stops: any
From: nyc
To: TLV
Departure dates: june 26 (or close)
Return dates: august 19 (or close)
Class: economy
Seats: 2
Mileage/Alliance: any (minimum surcharges)

Welcome to the club, clovin!

I've been looking for the same departure date as you, and all I can so far say is, I wish you good luck!
If you do find something, please let me know.

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Welcome to the club, clovin!

I've been looking for the same departure date as you, and all I can so far say is, I wish you good luck!
If you do find something, please let me know.
i know but its worth a shot

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Any help would be appreciated---I found a 60000 outgoing through frankfurt, but coming back nothing less than 75....
Is the consensus that more seats will open up sonner to the trip?
Thanks


Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:1 stop max
From: Any NYC airport
To: TLV
Departure dates: Aug 7 2012
Return airports: Any Florida Airport
Return dates: Aug 14 2012
Class: Any class but business for 60000 sounds great
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: I have United miles as well as Chase UR

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Any help would be appreciated---I found a 60000 outgoing through frankfurt, but coming back nothing less than 75....
Is the consensus that more seats will open up sonner to the trip?
Thanks


Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:1 stop max
From: Any NYC airport
To: TLV
Departure dates: Aug 7 2012
Return airports: Any Florida Airport
Return dates: Aug 14 2012
Class: Any class but business for 60000 sounds great
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: I have United miles as well as Chase UR

Things open up all the time. A seat here, a seat there. You have to check often throughout the day. Just yesterday I was purchasing a ticket and by the time I entered my info on the ticket was gone :/.

"Not all who wander are lost"

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Things open up all the time. A seat here, a seat there. You have to check often throughout the day. Just yesterday I was purchasing a ticket and by the time I entered my info on the ticket was gone :/.

What if I book the outgoing now at 60,
Could I change that without fees if something else opens up?

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What is the best  airline program to book a mileage ticket to Costa Rica in July?

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nyc to tlv (max 1 stop) june 25
tlv to lon june 28 / july 1
lon to nyc july5 / july 9
have ba united aa miles mr points
any alliance
1 adult
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nyc to tlv (max 1 stop) june 25
tlv to lon june 28 / july 1
lon to nyc july5 / july 9
have ba united aa miles mr points
any alliance
1 adult

expensive.... about 1850 with AZ/DL for  about 2k with BA

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After Aer Lingus to Dublin on BA, who has the next best airfare (points/mileage) to Europe (anywhere in Europe, from anywhere in the USA)?

Anybody less than the standard 30k one way on AA & UA w/o fuel surcharges?

Or are they all the same?

Thanks!


P.S. Re. the Aer Lingus, if anyone knows a way to find or create availability  please let me know, otherwise i must look for an alternative...

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nyc to tlv july 30 (can also go the week before)
tlv to NYC aug 16

any class
have aa/ba/united

i actually have 3 tix booked for these days on united that i may cancel, is there any way to get the passenger names switched?