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(If you are looking to purchase a paid ticket, please post here)

FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi only) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.


« Last edited by hvaces42 on April 24, 2018, 02:15:47 PM »

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Have you checked Alitalia availability?
Only availability is a few days later for 50k + 151 eur in economy one-way with 2 stops.

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  • Location: California
One way/Round-trip: RT
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: MAX 2
From: LOS ANGELES or LAS VEGAS
To: Rome (FCO)
Departure dates: Anytime between 8/23 and 9/15
Return airports: SAME AS DEPARTURE
Return dates: 9-12 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE
Class: BUSINESS OR FIRST
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: ANY, No Status

 Balances: AA 400K, AMEX 400k, UR 500K, SPG 200k

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Just reposting to see if anyone can help. $25 amazon gift card if you can help me book.

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Round trip or multi city
From: lax, bur, ont, sna, lgb
To: tel aviv with stop or stops in zurich and copenhagen
Departure dates: june 24, 25 or 26th
Return airports:same as above
Return dates: july 15, 16
Class: Any
Seats: 6 (2 adults and 4 children)
Alliance/Airline: any
i have 560k chase UR (have sapphire reserve)
and 125k spg
as well as 95k plus 42k AA (2 diff accounts)
and 50k united

i would like to go to Isreal with a stop in Europe, my preference is Zurich to tour for a few days.
i would like to stop in Copenhagen, Denmark for a few days as well if its not too much more money. (visit family)
i dont really care about the order of stops, but would want the bulk of the time to be in Israel.

because there are so many options, I'm having a hard time figuring out the best bang for my buck

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One Way
Max stops: 2
From: TLV
To: YYZ
Departure dates: July 12, 15 or 16 (Jul 11 if it's late in the day)
Class: Economy
Seats: 2
Points: Aeroplan or Avios (can't transfer Avios to Iberia though- no account activity)

I would also be fine with some other airport in the northeast with max 1 stop if there are cheap paid tickets from there to YYZ. For example, there are $81 flights from EWR to YYZ many days.

$50 Amazon gift card for finding a flight (that I subsequently book) using Aeroplan or Avios with low fuel surcharges.

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Looking for revenue or award?

rather a great revenue deal to purchase the 6 tickets. would consider award somehow using spg points if the deal is right.  thanks.

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One Way
Max stops: 2
From: TLV
To: lax or hou or anywhere a short southwest flight from there
Departure dates: July 23 or within a few days afterwards
Class: Business
Seats: 3
Points: all except citi

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british website showing no avail even though aa has super saver awards avail..is british site still not displaying aa flights? thought this was resolved...also if the flight is 15k on aa what would it be using avios points?  ny to cun 
thanks

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Isn’t ua supposed to show on sq ? Doesn’t let me input Ewr lax

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british website showing no avail even though aa has super saver awards avail..is british site still not displaying aa flights? thought this was resolved...also if the flight is 15k on aa what would it be using avios points?  ny to cun 
thanks
BA always had a problem showing AA flights, you have to call BA to book and tell them that it's not showing up on the website so they will waive you the agent booking fee and approximately it will be around 7.5K miles

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Can someone with Chase United CC with expanded award availability help me? PM for details

Gonna cross post in *A thread as well.

Update: Getting help already. Thanks to all who responded.
Thank you @as2 @davidrotts63 @yelped
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BA always had a problem showing AA flights, you have to call BA to book and tell them that it's not showing up on the website so they will waive you the agent booking fee and approximately it will be around 7.5K miles
Looking for ewr-clt 6-3 to 6-4 on BA for AA saver flight. BA has a message problem with the system, tried calling and they say their system is also down. Has anyone had any luck
Thanks

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Ua Lax Nyc June 3 looking to fly at least part of the way in j
Researched many routes, anyone know any routes that have good availability?

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can i still use avios for a american domestic flight from nyc to lax? has that partnership ended? if yes does anyone have a way of using avios for a domestic flight?

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Is it possible to change a ua ticket booked with sq and m&m for same day with ua ? Saver j is available

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One way/Round-trip:OW
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:Any
From: TLV
To: YEG
Departure dates: July 29 - Aug 6
Class: Any
Seats: 6
Alliance/Airline: I have 153k SPG and 81k UR