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(If you are looking to purchase a paid ticket, please post here)

FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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Hard to help when you don't post details.
Route/date?

dca-ord june 21, 2 seats. AA.com shows availability at 820 am in biz but BA cs says they only have 6 am. Trying your idea of booking in biz at 27k miles which is only 18k mr right now.

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Is there any fees to change a UA award ticket with orgin and destination the same, either changing the date or route?


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its UA to IAH? YYZ doesn't open (flightwise) until 6:30 (at least that was the case 3-4 months ago) so the plane just sits at the gate until 6:30. Also security only comes in late so don't go early to the airport

Look at the hertz thread, o/w rental shouldn't be an issue.
Pm w ur email address and ill try to help tomorrow.
Whats IAH? Isnt that Houston. Do you mean thats what I currently have for way there yes.
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dca-ord june 21, 2 seats. AA.com shows availability at 820 am in biz but BA cs says they only have 6 am. Trying your idea of booking in biz at 27k miles which is only 18k mr right now.
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Hmm, when i inputed 2 passengers it came up as available, but maybe someone grabbed it by the time i called

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on the phone with them does it  make sense that the taxes are 197 for 2 tickets round trip?

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on the phone with them does it  make sense that the taxes are 197 for 2 tickets round trip?

Didnt make sense to me, so i questioned them and they came back with $10. Much better.

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on the phone with them does it  make sense that the taxes are 197 for 2 tickets round trip?
Why not book online?
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Whats IAH? Isnt that Houston. Do you mean thats what I currently have for way there yes.
silly UA won't change the time of that flight, but it won't leave until 6:30. So keep that in mind if you're connecting in Houston...
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want to go to south america this summer, to say brazil argentina and peru. Only have delta and ua points. Should I increase my aa miles for that region. I will fly from ny

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Someone have 80k aeroplan and willing to check YQ for me?
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Someone have 80k aeroplan and willing to check YQ for me?
Should be the same as on a paid flight for the airlines they collect YQ for.
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Should be the same as on a paid flight for the airlines they collect YQ for.
Thanks, got someone.
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Should be the same as on a paid flight for the airlines they collect YQ for.
And for the record, after confirming, that aint true, unless LH doesn't charge YQ at all on TLV-FRA which I doubt but won't check.
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And for the record, after confirming, that aint true, unless LH doesn't charge YQ at all on TLV-FRA which I doubt but won't check.
No need to be cryptic, share the info you found out.
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No need to be cryptic, share the info you found out.
Wasnt being cryptic, just brief. Sorry. No YQ on a TLV-FRA LH flight, so either your statement is incorrect or LH doesn't charge YQ on that route, but I don't care enough to check.
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Wasnt being cryptic, just brief. Sorry. No YQ on a TLV-FRA LH flight, so either your statement is incorrect or LH doesn't charge YQ on that route, but I don't care enough to check.
Again, post the details.
Flight, date, total taxes.
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Again, post the details.
Flight, date, total taxes.
TLV-EWR
Oct 17
LH 0430 Tlv - fra
UA fra ewr
$118 total, incl a variety of airport fees.

I have heard from others as well this leg doesn't make YQ

I suspect I just raised the value of AP miles....
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A paid TLV-FRA ticket on LH has just the following taxes/surcharges:
LH YQ surcharge (YQ)    $43.00
Israeli Departure Tax (IL)    $25.10

What makes you think AC isn't charging you the YQ for that?
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UA.com wants $76 tax for that route, thus AC is charging the YQ on the LH flights, just like on the paid flight, and just as I said.
Thus the need for details and not mindless statements.
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