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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1651 on: January 26, 2013, 11:43:44 PM »
It would prob be much more cost efficient to use ba points. Can u provide a link to guide me where to look to check availability.

Nothing is available with ba for ur dates.

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1652 on: January 27, 2013, 12:45:59 AM »
Nothing is available with ba for ur dates.
So what wld b my next best option? Other form of points? Tx

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1653 on: January 27, 2013, 01:04:29 AM »
So what wld b my next best option? Other form of points? Tx
If the price is 250 go with that

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1654 on: January 27, 2013, 01:48:02 AM »
It seems that US Airway doesn't open up too much Envoy class service (biz level) at the Saver level for TLV - PHL.
Is this your experience as well?
Any advice as to how to snag it? I've heard it's one of the best hard products for a US carrier.

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1655 on: January 27, 2013, 01:48:54 AM »
Any advice as to how to snag it? I've heard it's one of the best hard products for a US carrier.
Meh, if you're traveling as a couple stick to UA IMHO. Plus UA has plan B.
If you're solo then yes, try for US.
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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1656 on: January 27, 2013, 06:16:00 AM »
Meh, if you're traveling as a couple stick to UA IMHO. Plus UA has plan B.
If you're solo then yes, try for US.
As of now, I have the wife and 3 kids (2 seats) flying sep from me.
We're all booked on UA (albeit separate days).

Why is UA better for couples? More openness?

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1657 on: January 27, 2013, 09:31:49 AM »
@Drago:
I recently booked for my dad USAir biz using UA miles. (RT PHL-TLV).
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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1658 on: January 27, 2013, 12:03:32 PM »
R/T any amount of stops
From: DFW, DAL
To: TLV
Departure dates: Jun 11th (+/- 3 days)
Return dates: July 23 (+/- 2 days)
Class: Any
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: No preference

Also if you can let me know about the fuel surcharges and fees that the airline would charge I would appreciate. When it comes to miles and airlines I am a complete novice.
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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1659 on: January 27, 2013, 12:07:04 PM »
R/T any amount of stops
From: DFW, DAL
To: TLV
Departure dates: Jun 11th (+/- 3 days)
Return dates: July 23 (+/- 2 days)
Class: Any
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: No preference

Also if you can let me know about the fuel surcharges and fees that the airline would charge I would appreciate. When it comes to miles and airlines I am a complete novice.
Try searching from NYC/PHL/YYZ and then locate the flight from DFW.
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« Reply #1660 on: January 27, 2013, 02:04:01 PM »
I live in NYC and want to go to Paris at the end of August. 2 adults and 2 children between the ages of 4 and 6. Which cards should I sign up for and what is the best way to maximize those rewards so I can get there without the fuel surcharges or stop-overs etc.

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1661 on: January 27, 2013, 03:46:50 PM »
Looking for a last minute ticket this weekend to Israel.  I need to b at work on Wednesday and back at my desk Monday morning
I have Amex
AA
And access to united if needed
Best days would be
1/30 - 2/4 6:00 a.m. landing
Bus. Or First only

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1662 on: January 27, 2013, 07:08:28 PM »
Round trip:
Non-stop
From: NYC/PHL/WAS(one stop ok from WAS)
To: TLV
Departure dates: 2/20
Return airports: Any as above
Return dates: 2/25
Class: Business going, could be economy return
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: StarA or other with Amex

Prefer to use USair miles since i have them, put on hold a UA from EWR in biz which is great, but could not find good return on 2/26 shushan purim, put me on Austrian at 6:30 am with a stop to JFK which i held for 3 days but am not so happy with it. Might as well not go to sleep after purim...

Could use also UA miles or AMex

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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1663 on: January 27, 2013, 10:55:07 PM »
Round trip/Multi city
Any stops
From: NYC or CLE
To: BKK, USM, or HKT
Departure dates: 3/17 or 3/18
Return airports: DEL
Return dates: between 4/11 - 4/14
Class: Business
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: i dont care

Miles that i have:
100k Chase UR
35k United

Other Pax
100k Amex - and is willing to buy more of whatever it may be to get the ticket.
i know amex and UR dont go together really but i can prob switch the amex for someone elses UR account if need be.

is United the best way to go on this with the free stopover especially if i may need to cut out a leg in middle and use open jaw?




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Re: Need help finding a ticket? Post here! Award ticket edition (Master thread)
« Reply #1664 on: January 27, 2013, 11:11:11 PM »
Outbound there is avail on ua via lhr with thai airways in business for 2 and return from del on apr 11 via vie