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FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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What's the harm in booking now?

Also maybe there will be a better deal using Avios or something in the ensuing months
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Only the close-in fee is waived.

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Round trip:
Maximum stops 1
From: NYC
To: TLV
Departure dates: 4/24
Return dates: 4/29
Class: ANY
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: Any, have MR, united, Delta, SPG, UR - each enough to cover flight

please help, i am new on this...

thanks in advance

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Round trip:
Maximum stops 1
From: NYC
To: TLV
Departure dates: 4/24
Return dates: 4/29
Class: ANY
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: Any, have MR, united, Delta, SPG, UR - each enough to cover flight

please help, i am new on this...

thanks in advance
Did you search availability?
I just booked a ticket without any problems.
Be flexible to depart 4/28 evening/night and return 4/28 late night (11:50PM), or a long connection departing 4/29 evening.

And well
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That's a huge help...
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Did you search availability?
I just booked a ticket without any problems.
Be flexible to depart 4/23 evening/night and return 4/28 late night (11:50PM), or a long connection departing 4/29 evening.

And well
Also, as some smart guy used to say: "67 PMs received this week that could've been posted publicly and you probably would've been answered".

Transfer 79,500 MR to SQ, that would get you on:
SQ JFK-FRA for 17k + $138 in coach 4/23
LH FRA-TLV for 25k +$139 in business 4/24
US TLV-PHL-LGA for 37.5k + $45.21 in coach 4/28 (11:50PM)

Comes out cheaper than to do it with UA which charges $75 close in fee + SQ JFK-FRA isn't avail for partners.

Or you can transfer 30k MR to BA for the return, that gets you on:
AB TLV-DUS-JFK for 30k + $59 in coach 4/29. But thats a long connection.
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im looking to go to israel dec 18 (or 19 if i can get a direct flight)returning dec 29 or 30 or jan 1. I want a business ticket but im having a hard time finding availability
I have 104,000 amex points plus 108,000 in another amex acct.
i also have 101000 american and 187000 ultimate rewards and another acct (different first name) with 129,000
i also have 46,460 united (with the name that has the 187000 UR) and 50000 united with the naame that has the 129000 UR
can anyone help out

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Also, as some smart guy used to say: "67 PMs received this week that could've been posted publicly and you probably would've been answered".

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You know What I tried that and noting no response so let me try again
From; NYC
To; keiv
Round trip ticket
Date; September, 2 (Monday), Return September 8
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
Class; first
Seats;1
Alliance/airline; spg/ lufthanza/air swiss

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any tricks to book an elal flight direct using aadvantage miles when they claim there is no available seats for miles?
the flight is a late july jfk/ewr-tlv one way

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Transfer 79,500 MR to SQ, that would get you on:
SQ JFK-FRA for 17k + $138 in coach 4/23
LH FRA-TLV for 25k +$139 in business 4/24
US TLV-PHL-LGA for 37.5k + $45.21 in coach 4/28 (11:50PM)

Just book SQ the way there in one shot, 75k for Suites to FRA and Business to TLV

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The only problem is that its not available...
Did you see them available?
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One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: max 1 stop
From: LAX
To: London
To: Paris
Departure dates: LAX-London: 7/22/13 London to Paris: 7/25
Return airports: LAX
Return dates: 7/29
Class: Prefer First but prob only have enough miles for coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: Any


Notes: I have 125K United miles, 77K UR, 30K SPG
I checked ANA and it seems like it will be 120k total (LAX-PARIS with stopover in Chicago) On United I'm seeing similar itinerary but it requires 220K. Is it that ANA is really telling me the mileage needed for one?

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One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: 1 stop (maybe 2)
From: CLT
To: PVG
Departure dates: 5/2
Return dates: 5/9
Class: Business
Seats: 2
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One way/Round trip: Round Trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: max 1 stop
From: LAX
To: London
To: Paris
Departure dates: LAX-London: 7/22/13 London to Paris: 7/25
Return airports: LAX
Return dates: 7/29
Class: Prefer First but prob only have enough miles for coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: Any


Notes: I have 125K United miles, 77K UR, 30K SPG
I checked ANA and it seems like it will be 120k total (LAX-PARIS with stopover in Chicago) On United I'm seeing similar itinerary but it requires 220K. Is it that ANA is really telling me the mileage needed for one?

There doesn't seem to be availability for all the dates you want which is why it's charging you the higher rate.

You can get to London and perhaps on to Paris using United miles (for the days you wanted) and then try to get back on a different airline or date.
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There doesn't seem to be availability for all the dates you want which is why it's charging you the higher rate.

You can get to London and perhaps on to Paris using United miles (for the days you wanted) and then try to get back on a different airline or date.


TY. Does the 120K ANA make sense? And does United transfer to ANA 1:1?

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TY. Does the 120K ANA make sense? And does United transfer to ANA 1:1?
ua doesn't transfer to any other programs. But Mr transfers to ana 1-1