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(If you are looking to purchase a paid ticket, please post here)

FAQs:

Q: How can I use my credit card points to book a USA-TLV ticket?
A: Please read Dan's very helpful and informative guides found here and here

Great tool to see the mileage cost for a route http://www.awardhacker.com

Q: Do I have to pay a lot of money when using miles for a ticket?

A: Sometimes. For more information read this

Q: How do I find award availability?
A: For Star Alliance (United, AirCanada, Lufthansa, Swiss, and others) see this guide

For OneWorld (AmericanAirlines, BritishAirways, Iberia, Malev, and more) You can use BA's award search engine (you need to have a free BA account to access the engine). In addition, you can use Qantas' engine (free account needed as well), which will (to an extent) search Elal. As of this posting, the Elal business flights that show up are coach, and vice verse.

For Delta and AirFrance, use their respective sites. While not perfect, they are quite manageable for the casual searcher.

And of course, many of us here will take time out to help someone who is trying to learn.

Q: All this searching is making me crazy. Is there an easier way?
A: Yes, but it might cost you. Check out AwardNexus.com, KVStool.com, and expertflyer.com.

Q: I see AirCanada availability, but when I call AirCanada they say I can't use my United miles with them. Aren't they partners?
A: You can only use miles with the airline that issued them. Through that airline (in our case United) they can issue a ticket on a partner (ie AirCanada). Trying to call AirCanada with United miles, is like trying to use shekels in Mexico.

Q: I can't find availability on my dates. What should I do?
A: You should try to be as flexible as possible. Can you add a stop or 2? Can you be more flexible with your dates? The airports?
If all else fails, keep trying. Availability is constantly opening up.

Q: Can someone please help me find a ticket?
A: No! Find it yourself.  ;D ;D Just kidding. Please copy the following lines, delete the non bolded parts, and fill it out in your post.

One way/Round-trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: All airports from which you can depart
To: All airports which you can arrive at. For multiple destinations, just keep adding this line
Departure dates: All possible dates that you can depart on. Please be as specific as possible.
Return airports:If different from 'To' line. Delete this line for One-way tickets
Return dates: Delete this line for One-way tickets
Class: First/Business/Coach/Any
Seats: Total number of people traveling over the age of 2
Alliance/Airline: What airline or alliance are you looking to fly with

IF you have any airline status or credit cards (Ie, United CC or status) that gives extended seat availability, please add that. Would be helpful to find you correct availability.

An additional note about using miles for direct flights from NYC-TLV

NYC-TLV is only served by 3 carriers non-stop, United, Delta, and El Al. Saver availability on Delta is non-existent. Saver availability on United is rare but sometimes available close-in. It is almost never available on or near holidays or holiday weekends, or around yomim tovim. Any award space that opens will be snatched up immediately so you have to constantly be checking if you hope to snag it if/when it opens. El AL awards are more readily available but prohibitively expensive using Matmid points (El Al's frequent flyer program) but may be able to be booked using Quantas points (transfers from Citi & Amex) at a much more reasonable rate.

This leaves the following options if no saver availability:

The Chase travel portal will let you use Ultimate Rewards, or a combination or UR and cash to book flights. If you have a Sapphire Reserve or a Sapphire Preferred, the redemption rate will be 1.5 cents per point or 1.25 cents per point respectively, instead of the regular 1 cent per point without them. (A, Ink cash or Ink Preferred will also give you the 1.25 cpp redemption rate.)

The Amex travel portal will let you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards the cost of air travel. If you have a grandfathered Business Platinum card, you will get 50% of the points you redeem back around a month after you book the ticket. If you have a non-grandfathered card, you will get 35% of your points back. (This is only available when redeeming points for tickets on your selected American carrier in economy class or on any airline in business or first class.)

The Citi travel portal also lets you redeem points at 1 cent per point towards travel and seems to have better pricing on El Al in business class.

Alternatively, you can sell your points (not here on DDF) and use the cash to buy regular tickets. This is usually the best option for people without either a Chase Sapphire Reserve or grandfathered Business Platinum who are flying economy.

Those are your only options for nonstop travel. For options with a stopover and more information in general, see https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/the-ultimate-israel-mileage-award-chart/

This keeps on getting asked over and over. Besides Dan's comprehensive list of how to get to, or from, TLV here is a short list of options for travel to or from NYC in Y:
Lowest point per RT is FB 50K (less with promo, but YQ of ~$500 unless you can find unicorn DL availability), AA 80k (AA metal for transatlantic), AC 80k (LX or LO for low YQ) and UA 85k. Half that for OW.

Please add any other information to this wiki that you feel might be useful.



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Hi,
My mother and I need to attend a simcha in Chicago this Shabbat!


Round trip
Non-stop
From: BOS (preferred), PVD, MHT
To: ORD, MDW
Departure dates: 7/4 (noon to 5pm)
Return dates:7/6 (ideally departing before noon)
Class: Any
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: I have 60,000 USAirways Dividend Miles...Looks like I could blow all those miles plus $108 in fees for ONE passenger.  That doesn't seem worth it to me, is it?  Other ways to use those miles?

Thank you all in advance.
Do you have any other points?

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One way
Any:stop in thailand
From: nyc/lax
To: thailand then sydney
Departure dates: july 16
Class: Coach
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: any

Not just looking for availability. I would also like to know the best way to go about finding such a ticket using the least amount of miles. If anyone could give a quick rundown of booking multi destination mileage tickets it would be greatly appreciated!
TIA.
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Let me know if this helps

You can't technically book a one way with a stopover, would need to be r/t, but if you do find a way around it, then you can do USA-BKK-SYD with a stopover.

If you wanted to do the stopover then UA would be best. Without stopover you can do AA miles (CX) to BKK, then UA miles from BKK to SYD.

Any questions let me know. If you want me to look for availability, how long do you need in Thailand and where in Thailand? When would you want to go to Sydney?
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RT: Round Trip.
Stops: 0-1 stop max
From:EWR, JKF, LGA
To: TLV
Departure dates: 8/12/14 - 8/13/14
Return dates: 8/19/14 - 8/20/14
Class: Coach
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: From what i understand BA would be the cheapest for award travel please CMIIW. I cant find any availibility with them though for my dates. I have about 160,000 UR points i would like to utilize for these tickets. So im limited to BA, United, Singapore ect (any UR transfer partners)
Thank You!


As of right now there is UA nonstop of the 13th at night but I can't really find anything coming back. Do you have any other flexibility? Would you be willing to take up to 2 stops?
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As of right now there is UA nonstop of the 13th at night but I can't really find anything coming back. Do you have any other flexibility? Would you be willing to take up to 2 stops?
Thank you, the 13th nonstop would be grea. And where is that out of? 42,500 or 80,000 per ticket?
For the way back if there is something that is paid that looks good i would take it and book separate itineraries. Cant really do two stops because traveling with grandmother. if leaving 13th i can come back 20th with one stop or 21st nonstop.
Thanks so much for your time and help
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Thank you, the 13th nonstop would be grea. And where is that out of? 42,500 or 80,000 per ticket?
For the way back if there is something that is paid that looks good i would take it and book separate itineraries. Cant really do two stops because traveling with grandmother. if leaving 13th i can come back 20th with one stop or 21st nonstop.
Thanks so much for your time and help

It would be EWR-TLV on UA for 42.5k. I don't give out standard awards.

For the return there is no option non-stop or 1 stop.
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Hi, I wish I knew how to respond directly to chucksterace's message, but I guess I just hit reply and it's all in the same thread.
So, I have about 15,000 United Mileage plus miles, but that's it.  Just got into the Chase and Southwest program, but no miles posted yet.

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Hi, I wish I knew how to respond directly to chucksterace's message, but I guess I just hit reply and it's all in the same thread.
So, I have about 15,000 United Mileage plus miles, but that's it.  Just got into the Chase and Southwest program, but no miles posted yet.
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It would be EWR-TLV on UA for 42.5k. I don't give out standard awards.

For the return there is no option non-stop or 1 stop.
Thanks. only problem is the cheapest one way ticket tlv -ewr is 1500+ with 1 stop. such a terrible time for a simcha in israel :(
Why is BA availability so horrendous?
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Thanks. only problem is the cheapest one way ticket tlv -ewr is 1500+ with 1 stop. such a terrible time for a simcha in israel :(
Why is BA availability so horrendous?

No reason. Thats what happens in the Israel during the summer
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Do you have any other points?
Sadly, not really. I have about 15,000 United Mileage plus miles, but that's it.
Just got into the Chase/UR and Southwest program, but no miles/points posted yet.

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No reason. Thats what happens in the Israel during the summer
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One way/Round trip:OW
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:NON
From: EWR
To: ZRH or GEN
Departure dates: 11-23/ 11-24/ 11-25
Class: First
Alliance/Airline: Star Alliance- prefer Swiss Air
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Hi, I wish I knew how to respond directly to chucksterace's message, but I guess I just hit reply and it's all in the same thread.
So, I have about 15,000 United Mileage plus miles, but that's it.  Just got into the Chase and Southwest program, but no miles posted yet.
Although Chuck's the default here, that was me  :)

I don't think it'll be worth it booking with miles in this situation. At least with the current availability.

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Although Chuck's the default here, that was me  :)

I don't think it'll be worth it booking with miles in this situation. At least with the current availability.

Joe4007, Thank you.  Looks like I'm paying for this one. At least it's a happy occasion requiring travel! :)