Author Topic: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!  (Read 4951 times)

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Any chance they'll be successful?

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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2017, 09:32:51 PM »
Goodness is that expensive.

$1000+ for NYC<>Catskills RT;
$1300+ Lakewood<>Catkills RT.
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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2017, 12:07:18 AM »
Goodness is that expensive.

$1000+ for NYC<>Catskills RT;
$1300+ Lakewood<>Catkills RT.
Yup. But 35 minutes from Lakewood to the Catskills in lieu of a 2 1/2 hour drive plus possibility of heavy traffic..
I wonder if there is really a market for this.
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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2017, 12:25:47 AM »
I wonder if there is really a market for this.
Really depends on how valuable your time is. It you must be in the city/Lakewood late Friday afternoon and want to spend shabbos with the family it will set you back $500+... There are definitely people that will use it

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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2017, 12:28:37 AM »
Really depends on how valuable your time is. It you must be in the city/Lakewood late Friday afternoon and want to spend shabbos with the family it will set you back $500+... There are definitely people that will use it
Agreed, but enough to keep them in business?!?

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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2017, 12:39:23 AM »
Agreed, but enough to keep them in business?!?
Don't know how the business works.

I believe he's simply an agent that his entire expense is website+marketing.


Now for the summer he simply got a company that does helicopter trips to add 2 trips.

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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2017, 01:26:46 AM »
Don't know how the business works.

I believe he's simply an agent that his entire expense is website+marketing.


Now for the summer he simply got a company that does helicopter trips to add 2 trips.

Apparently he's basically a broker for Wings Air.
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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2017, 07:08:18 AM »
This broker's parents were probably in diapers when this was first proposed and tried. They'll lose their pants. 
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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2017, 07:47:51 AM »
I could see this working, especially if he can get people to sign up for the whole season. $500 is not a crazy amount of money for a lawyer etc who needs to work a full Fri and wants the peace of mind

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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2017, 09:20:02 AM »
I could see this working, especially if he can get people to sign up for the whole season. $500 is not a crazy amount of money for a lawyer etc who needs to work a full Fri and wants the peace of mind
When was the last time you heard of someone who went upstate without anything but a briefcase? For one off late friday departures it may work. But as a business model it wont.
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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2017, 09:35:11 AM »


When was the last time you heard of someone who went upstate without anything but a briefcase?

Oh, I'd say it happens all. the. time.
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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2017, 09:37:14 AM »
When was the last time you heard of someone who went upstate without anything but a briefcase?
For someone that owns a bungalow and has all their shabbos stuff there for the summer can easily go with just a suitcase

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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2017, 09:49:48 AM »
When was the last time you heard of someone who went upstate without anything but a briefcase? For one off late friday departures it may work. But as a business model it wont.
Very common.

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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2017, 09:54:38 AM »
When was the last time you heard of someone who went upstate without anything but a briefcase? For one off late friday departures it may work. But as a business model it wont.
In the upper end colonies probably 50%+ of the men come separately without anything
And the average Shabbos is expense is very high
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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2017, 09:55:49 AM »
This broker's parents were probably in diapers when this was first proposed and tried. They'll lose their pants.
How are they going to lose their pants? They have nothing invested except for a website and advertisement ( which could be expensive ) but it's not alot of money.

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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2017, 10:03:00 AM »
How are they going to lose their pants? They have nothing invested except for a website and advertisement ( which could be expensive ) but it's not alot of money.

I've worked with Wings Air on corporate contracts. This guy likely bought a very large amount of hours at a certain discount. These things add up incredibly quickly, especially considering that WA counts positioning time to and from HPN against your hours.

This guy likely invested a ton of money.
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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2017, 10:07:55 AM »
I've worked with Wings Air on corporate contracts. This guy likely bought a very large amount of hours at a certain discount. These things add up incredibly quickly, especially considering that WA counts positioning time to and from HPN against your hours.

This guy likely invested a ton of money.
Interesting.

I guess I was wrong...

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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2017, 12:36:19 PM »


This guy likely invested a ton of money.


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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2017, 01:13:32 PM »
I could see this working, especially if he can get people to sign up for the whole season. $500 is not a crazy amount of money for a lawyer etc who needs to work a full Fri and wants the peace of mind

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Re: New Helicopter service between Lkwd, Manhattan, and the Catskills!
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2017, 01:18:51 PM »
I could see this working, especially if he can get people to sign up for the whole season. $500 is not a crazy amount of money for a lawyer etc who needs to work a full Fri and wants the peace of mind
I can see people using this on a specific week when they have a meeting or something that they need to be in the city for. But I dont see people using it every week. That wouldnt be $500, it would be $1000 a week X 10 weeks, thats $10k.