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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2080 on: February 16, 2013, 11:37:02 PM »
Bad idea (unless a) your income and b) you spending patterns can support it).

abt how much income wud i need to show if i ever got f/r?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2081 on: February 16, 2013, 11:37:14 PM »
y, plz explain

Because it triggers a F/R. And the way to pass it is having the two things AJK wrote.
It's not about the quantity of your posts.  It's about the quality.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2082 on: February 16, 2013, 11:39:11 PM »
Because it triggers a F/R. And the way to pass it is having the two things AJK wrote.

and if u pass, will u ever get a f/r again?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2083 on: February 16, 2013, 11:40:37 PM »
and if u pass, will u ever get a f/r again?
I don't know. But if you pass once I don't see why you wouldn't pass a second time if it would happen.
It's not about the quantity of your posts.  It's about the quality.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2084 on: February 16, 2013, 11:43:32 PM »
I don't know. But if you pass once I don't see why you wouldn't pass a second time if it would happen.
Gotya. I guess I just goda hope they don't f/r me. Love the spg points tho

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2085 on: February 17, 2013, 02:23:16 AM »
Did you pass? If not, you'll have to have docs to back your finances up to get back in.
I closed my accounts cuz I wasn't able to prove my  income

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2086 on: February 17, 2013, 03:20:50 AM »
I laugh when I read the blanket F/R threats here.
You can not compare one cardholder to the other.
One has higher credit score and the other has a lower spending pattern, one has a older relationship with Amex and the other has a lower reported income.
There are so many calculations involved that its impossible to know what would cause problems.
I personally know someone who was F/R'd after a simple charge of $200 at a supermarket, and I personally know someone who's literally screwing them each month with over $15k of suspicious activity and nothing happened.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2087 on: February 17, 2013, 12:40:51 PM »
I laugh when I read the blanket F/R threats here.
You can not compare one cardholder to the other.
One has higher credit score and the other has a lower spending pattern, one has a older relationship with Amex and the other has a lower reported income.
There are so many calculations involved that its impossible to know what would cause problems.
I personally know someone who was F/R'd after a simple charge of $200 at a supermarket, and I personally know someone who's literally screwing them each month with over $15k of suspicious activity and nothing happened.

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I got an FR after a 10$ purchase of a metrocard,

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2088 on: February 17, 2013, 01:24:23 PM »
...and I personally know someone who's literally screwing them each month with over $15k of suspicious activity and nothing happened.
Some can do many multiples of that and still not have a problem.  ;)
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2089 on: February 17, 2013, 01:35:48 PM »
Some can do many multiples of that and still not have a problem.  ;)
I agree.  ;)
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2090 on: February 17, 2013, 09:31:48 PM »
Some can do many multiples of that and still not have a problem.  ;)
i think its bc they are and have been doing many multiples of that

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2091 on: February 18, 2013, 01:29:15 PM »
and if u pass, will u ever get a f/r again?
My was fr'd a few months ago and semi passed, and now she was fr'd again.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2092 on: February 18, 2013, 02:37:56 PM »
My was fr'd a few months ago and semi passed, and now she was fr'd again.
What does semi passed mean?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2093 on: February 18, 2013, 05:10:14 PM »
What does semi passed mean?
I had to close down her business cards because they were under my business....

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2094 on: February 18, 2013, 06:53:54 PM »
I had to close down her business cards because they were under my business....
But you had to send in 4506 form?
It's not about the quantity of your posts.  It's about the quality.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2095 on: February 18, 2013, 07:18:45 PM »
and if u pass, will u ever get a f/r again?
I got fr'ed twice.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2096 on: February 18, 2013, 08:18:13 PM »
But you had to send in 4506 form?
No, I had to send in a 4506T form. About a year ago I fr'd when applying and then they requested the 4506 form.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2097 on: February 19, 2013, 01:30:58 PM »
When signing up for a business CC, does the income you list have to be generated from the business or can you put household income?  Can it be yours and your spouses combined income?
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2098 on: February 19, 2013, 01:36:57 PM »
When signing up for a business CC, does the income you list have to be generated from the business or can you put household income?  Can it be yours and your spouses combined income?
If you open as a Sole Proprietor then household income should work

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2099 on: February 19, 2013, 01:40:59 PM »
If you open as a Sole Proprietor then household income should work
Including wife's?
If you don't care why would you comment?
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