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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2300 on: May 13, 2013, 08:03:33 AM »
Legitimate spending...  ;)
What's that? ;)

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2301 on: May 13, 2013, 10:39:47 AM »

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2302 on: May 13, 2013, 11:46:33 AM »
One of them was on my Biz Gold card, right after I opened it I have spent a lot of money in a short amount of time...

How much was alot in a short period of time?  Ive spent about 5k in the first 2 weeks of having the card (before going through this thread).  no FR yet but based on the comments, its imminent  :-[


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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2303 on: May 13, 2013, 11:58:54 AM »
...including 2 AP totalling $1000.  Why didnt I read this thread first !?! FML

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2304 on: May 13, 2013, 12:03:55 PM »
You MAY NOT get one. The other option is to close the card and start again in a few months.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2305 on: May 13, 2013, 12:34:03 PM »
...including 2 AP totalling $1000.  Why didnt I read this thread first !?! FML

I mean, there's a solid chance you don't get an FR. Hope for the best.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2306 on: May 13, 2013, 12:36:12 PM »
Even with fr if you have a decent salary what are the chances they shut you down because you don't have a schedule c anyone know ?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2307 on: May 13, 2013, 12:37:51 PM »
Even with fr if you have a decent salary what are the chances they shut you down because you don't have a schedule c anyone know ?
If you said on application that the business is new - so it wouldn't have a tax return yet, a personal tax return (for sole propietor) should pass. YMMV

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2308 on: May 13, 2013, 12:39:55 PM »
If you said on application that the business is new - so it wouldn't have a tax return yet, a personal tax return (for sole propietor) should pass. YMMV
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2309 on: May 13, 2013, 12:47:44 PM »
If you said on application that the business is new - so it wouldn't have a tax return yet, a personal tax return (for sole propietor) should pass. YMMV

Good point. thanks.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2310 on: May 13, 2013, 12:55:15 PM »
Ya, new business.  In terms of personal tax returns, no problem at all, B"H.  Def dont have business returns.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2311 on: May 13, 2013, 01:07:59 PM »
You MAY NOT get one. The other option is to close the card and start again in a few months.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2312 on: May 13, 2013, 01:09:19 PM »
Good point. thanks.
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Based on my experience it won't matter. I twas a bit different, but I didn;t have tax return due to low business income but high personal income and they said no matter. Must show biz income.
but YMMV as always.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2313 on: May 13, 2013, 01:29:52 PM »
-1.
Based on my experience it won't matter. I twas a bit different, but I didn;t have tax return due to low business income but high personal income and they said no matter. Must show biz income.
but YMMV as always.

You fr was set off by how much 10k a month?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2314 on: May 13, 2013, 02:28:14 PM »
You fr was set off by how much 10k a month?
$4500 in 4 days :-\
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2315 on: May 13, 2013, 02:37:30 PM »
$4500 in 4 days :-\

Did they shut you down because I have read reports on flyertalk of people who had this card and other amex with small income and no buisness tax returns who passed fr just had limits cut majorly.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2316 on: May 13, 2013, 02:57:53 PM »
Did they shut you down because I have read reports on flyertalk of people who had this card and other amex with small income and no buisness tax returns who passed fr just had limits cut majorly.
They wanted to specifically see tax returns with biz name on them. The woman in fact said that if the biz name would have been my name instead of my ebay ID then my personal tax returns would have sufficed.  We elected to just shut down all the biz cards instead of having Amex shut them and cause a negative credit mark.  We'll likely reapply after 12 months.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2317 on: May 13, 2013, 02:59:57 PM »
They wanted to specifically see tax returns with biz name on them. The woman in fact said that if the biz name would have been my name instead of my ebay ID then my personal tax returns would have sufficed.  We elected to just shut down all the biz cards instead of having Amex shut them and cause a negative credit mark.  We'll likely reapply after 12 months.

That stinks.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2318 on: May 13, 2013, 03:42:32 PM »
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2319 on: May 13, 2013, 07:05:03 PM »
They wanted to specifically see tax returns with biz name on them. The woman in fact said that if the biz name would have been my name instead of my ebay ID then my personal tax returns would have sufficed.  We elected to just shut down all the biz cards instead of having Amex shut them and cause a negative credit mark.  We'll likely reapply after 12 months.
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