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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2420 on: June 10, 2013, 07:55:36 PM »
If they've initiated a F/R and you don't give them what they want, they'll close your accounts in 5 days.

But if you didn't lie on the applications then you shouldn't have too much to worry about if you cooperate, so I'd just call them back and get it over with.

People who lie but who show decent income pass too, they usually just get their limits slashed.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2421 on: June 10, 2013, 10:22:15 PM »
account looks reg.... say i call back and they start a f/r, and they ask for proof of income. can i show my tax papers since we are married, or she needs her own?

They get your tax forms directly from the IRS (you fill out a permission form), and on the tax form Amex receives from the IRS there is no breakdown of who makes what, so for all they know your wife makes all of the income reported.

It's been discusses a couple of pages upthread that you have at least 30 days to transfer out even if they shut you accounts.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2422 on: June 14, 2013, 10:59:49 AM »
Anybody got Fr'd on a biz account and was asked to prove that the biz (sole proprietorship) is registered with the state? Also, how long after you unilaterally close your accounts down shoud one try to reapply?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2423 on: June 14, 2013, 11:57:03 AM »
Anybody got Fr'd on a biz account and was asked to prove that the biz (sole proprietorship) is registered with the state? Also, how long after you unilaterally close your accounts down shoud one try to reapply?

They asked you for this, or are you asking hypothetically?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2424 on: June 14, 2013, 11:59:48 AM »
They said the biz has to be registered with the state to have a biz card but they have not yet asked for specific documents.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2425 on: June 14, 2013, 12:01:47 PM »
They said the biz has to be registered with the state to have a biz card but they have not yet asked for specific documents.

Registering with the state is usually cheap, Google for instructions to register in your state.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2426 on: June 14, 2013, 12:05:02 PM »
Registering with the state is usually cheap, Google for instructions to register in your state.
won't they see the date of when it was registered?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2427 on: June 14, 2013, 12:16:49 PM »
Anybody got Fr'd on a biz account and was asked to prove that the biz (sole proprietorship) is registered with the state? Also, how long after you unilaterally close your accounts down shoud one try to reapply?
Did you apply with your name or you made up a business name?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2428 on: June 14, 2013, 12:29:27 PM »
Did you apply with your name or you made up a business name?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2429 on: June 14, 2013, 12:47:20 PM »
Both  ??? " (wife's first name)'s Wigs "
I don't understand why people don't just use their names like I always say.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2430 on: July 10, 2013, 01:57:06 AM »
I said this many times. A FR is no big deal and never lie on an app. Just have my first FR and passed with no change in any of my accounts.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2431 on: July 10, 2013, 02:29:54 AM »
I said this many times. A FR is no big deal and never lie on an app. Just have my first FR and passed with no change in any of my accounts.
Its a big deal when your business is depended on it, and they shut down completely till your info is verified.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2432 on: July 10, 2013, 03:20:23 AM »
Its a big deal when your business is depended on it, and they shut down completely till your info is verified.
You should never have your business in a position where it is dependent on one CC.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2433 on: July 10, 2013, 03:27:46 AM »
You should never have your business in a position where it is dependent on one CC.
-1. All my amex cards were put on hold due to the FR. Unless your referring to 1 CC provider.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2434 on: July 10, 2013, 03:28:35 AM »
Unless your referring to 1 CC provider.
Correct
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2435 on: July 10, 2013, 03:31:25 AM »
Did you apply with your name or you made up a business name?
Just had someone shut down biz cards since couldn't prove anything with state , even though used first initial and last name for business name

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2436 on: July 10, 2013, 03:38:21 AM »
Just had someone shut down biz cards since couldn't prove anything with state , even though used first initial and last name for business name
Was this do to a FR?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2437 on: July 10, 2013, 03:46:16 AM »
Was this do to a FR?
Yes but they shut down biz for that reason and left open personal

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2438 on: July 10, 2013, 06:43:18 AM »
Yes but they shut down biz for that reason and left open personal
When it comes to a FR it does not matter what name you put down for the business. What matters is if you can substantiate the info about the business.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2439 on: July 14, 2013, 12:43:25 AM »
Just confirming, Amex is running system maintenance on all my accounts and it's not a FR.