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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6180 on: December 26, 2015, 08:00:02 PM »
prepaying can maybe be an issue because you are circumventing your spend limits, here you are not using the credit to "artificially increase" your limit.
Is it just as bad to pay off the charges midmonth to avail more credit to charge for the rest of the month?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6181 on: December 26, 2015, 08:01:37 PM »
Is it just as bad to pay off the charges midmonth to avail more credit to charge for the rest of the month?
no one can definitely answer that question, though I would think it's definitely better than prepaying.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6182 on: December 26, 2015, 08:01:41 PM »
Is it just as bad to pay off the charges midmonth to avail more credit to charge for the rest of the month?
No you are paying the bill not circumventing your credit limit

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6183 on: December 26, 2015, 08:03:32 PM »
No you are paying the bill not circumventing your credit limit
still spending more per month than they intended, I got into a huge fight with Bofa a long time ago about this.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6184 on: December 26, 2015, 08:08:13 PM »
Got it.  Ty.

Amex is calling almost daily without leaving a message.  Is this a bad sign?  When I call back it just asks for my CC number.  It does not identify a department.

BTW, businesses (and certainly the CC companies) have caller ID even for unlisted and individually blocked-for-that-call number.  IOW, there is no such thing as an anonymous call if they have your number in their system.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6185 on: December 26, 2015, 08:10:52 PM »
Got it.  Ty.

Amex is calling almost daily without leaving a message.  Is this a bad sign?  When I call back it just asks for my CC number.  It does not identify a department.

BTW, businesses (and certainly the CC companies) have caller ID even for unlisted and individually blocked-for-that-call number.  IOW, there is no such thing as an anonymous call if they have your number in their system.
How do you know its amex calling ?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6186 on: December 26, 2015, 08:15:35 PM »
How do you know its amex calling ?
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Is it better to wait for them to leave a message or will calling them back satisfy their need for whatever and preempt them taking it a step further by formally starting "something", ch v'sh?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6187 on: December 26, 2015, 11:17:55 PM »
Got it.  Ty.



BTW, businesses (and certainly the CC companies) have caller ID even for unlisted and individually blocked-for-that-call number.  IOW, there is no such thing as an anonymous call if they have your number in their system.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6188 on: December 27, 2015, 06:42:33 PM »
oh dear, this is not that complicated, ill spoon feed you.


Paying twice that leaves a credit is not considered pre-paying. For example, if one has a 10k limit, then prepays 2k then spends 4k then he did not increase his limit.


If he prepaid 2k, then spent 12k he increased his limit by prepaying.
So now he has a 5k credit balance. If he then goes and spends 5k more than his CL, would THAT be the trigger?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6189 on: December 27, 2015, 06:48:42 PM »
So now he has a 5k credit balance. If he then goes and spends 5k more than his CL, would THAT be the trigger?
that would be considered prepaying. Whether prepaying actually is a trigger is a whole different discussion.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6190 on: December 27, 2015, 09:12:25 PM »
that would be considered prepaying. Whether prepaying actually is a trigger is a whole different discussion.
got it
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6191 on: December 28, 2015, 03:34:44 PM »
The third party check trigger, is that the check doesn't say your name on top, or that it's not payable to Amex?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6192 on: December 28, 2015, 03:37:00 PM »
The third party check trigger, is that the check doesn't say your name on top, or that it's not payable to Amex?
The former
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6193 on: December 28, 2015, 03:59:42 PM »
If I apply for new cc right after FR will there be hard limits imposed?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6194 on: December 28, 2015, 04:21:12 PM »
If I apply for new cc right after FR will there be hard limits imposed?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6195 on: December 28, 2015, 05:04:35 PM »
If I apply for new cc right after FR will there be hard limits imposed?

IME no.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6196 on: December 29, 2015, 03:18:35 AM »
so i applied for someone and got approved started to do the spending..
a charge got declined mind you no charges when through yet, called up, got fwd to fr asked all the q and basically told me im good to go but i still need to clear up the fraud so hell transfer me ...
the next person asked personal info then asked me for a code they left me in voicemail which i didnt have kuz they didnt send so she said they will call me again ,
never had this b4 normal?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6197 on: December 29, 2015, 09:26:27 AM »
so i applied for someone and got approved started to do the spending..
a charge got declined mind you no charges when through yet, called up, got fwd to fr asked all the q and basically told me im good to go but i still need to clear up the fraud so hell transfer me ...
the next person asked personal info then asked me for a code they left me in voicemail which i didnt have kuz they didnt send so she said they will call me again ,
never had this b4 normal?
Second part sounds like standard fraud clear up. They have to call you at a number on your acct (sometimes I've had them insist on the home number only) or they leave a voicemail on that number with a code
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6198 on: December 29, 2015, 06:14:22 PM »
Second part sounds like standard fraud clear up. They have to call you at a number on your acct (sometimes I've had them insist on the home number only) or they leave a voicemail on that number with a code
regular fraud
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #6199 on: December 29, 2015, 06:15:14 PM »
regular fraud
Not sure what you're adding, that's what I said
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