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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7060 on: July 08, 2016, 10:13:18 AM »
Why did they cancel
Iv'e no idea. told me im spending too much. but with my income they shouldve just cut my credit

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7061 on: July 10, 2016, 01:49:41 PM »
How does the FR end? Assuming that you pass, do they just remove the freeze, or they need to contact you first? Thanks.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7062 on: July 10, 2016, 01:52:05 PM »
How does the FR end? Assuming that you pass, do they just remove the freeze, or they need to contact you first? Thanks.
It takes some time

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7063 on: July 10, 2016, 01:52:22 PM »
How does the FR end? Assuming that you pass, do they just remove the freeze, or they need to contact you first? Thanks.
they try to contact you to tell you whats happening but even if they dont get thru they still do whatever theyre gonna do

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7064 on: July 10, 2016, 01:53:50 PM »
they try to contact you to tell you whats happening but even if they dont get thru they still do whatever theyre gonna do
So, all of the above.  ;)
Thanks!

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7065 on: July 10, 2016, 08:11:54 PM »
Are Biz Amex charge cards as sensitive as the personal ones when it comes to "starting slowly"?

Anyone successfully start off with large charges?

The Plat 250,000 MR offer requires you to spend $5k *10, I'd like to start immediately...


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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7066 on: July 10, 2016, 08:19:38 PM »
Are Biz Amex charge cards as sensitive as the personal ones when it comes to "starting slowly"?

Anyone successfully start off with large charges?

The Plat 250,000 MR offer requires you to spend $5k *10, I'd like to start immediately...
IINM most people were getting FR'd for heavy spending on the biz plats.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7067 on: July 10, 2016, 08:20:20 PM »
Are Biz Amex charge cards as sensitive as the personal ones when it comes to "starting slowly"?

Anyone successfully start off with large charges?

The Plat 250,000 MR offer requires you to spend $5k *10, I'd like to start immediately...
Sole proprietorship or corporation?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7068 on: July 10, 2016, 08:59:53 PM »
Sole proprietorship or corporation?
SP.

High income and monthly spending on application.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7069 on: July 10, 2016, 09:01:27 PM »
SP.

High income and monthly spending on application.
Are you worried about an FR obviating the former?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7070 on: July 10, 2016, 09:31:45 PM »
Are you worried about an FR obviating the former?
No.

I posted about this here earlier, the AGI on the tax form is a negative number, even though there is demonstrable income.

Just don't want to risk dealing with a Smart-aleck rep that can't read a return properly.

(I'm not asking for myself)

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7071 on: July 10, 2016, 10:48:46 PM »
How does the FR end? Assuming that you pass, do they just remove the freeze, or they need to contact you first? Thanks.
If u see that ur spending limits were cut, u can assume that u passed. That's what happened by me. Then I just called my rep, and she removed the freeze. Whole process took 2 days, from beginning to end

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7072 on: July 10, 2016, 11:31:13 PM »
If u see that ur spending limits were cut, u can assume that u passed. That's what happened by me. Then I just called my rep, and she removed the freeze. Whole process took 2 days, from beginning to end
Very interesting. However, I don't know what the limits are/were, so I couldn't gauge by that. But maybe I'll give a call to follow up... Thanks.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7073 on: July 11, 2016, 12:25:03 AM »
Very interesting. However, I don't know what the limits are/were, so I couldn't gauge by that. But maybe I'll give a call to follow up... Thanks.
U can look on previous statements online. Either it will say how much ur limit was at the time, or it won't say a limit which means that there was none. Either way you can check now if the limits match..

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7074 on: July 11, 2016, 12:27:17 AM »
U can look on previous statements online. Either it will say how much ur limit was at the time, or it won't say a limit which means that there was none. Either way you can check now if the limits match..
Thanks.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7075 on: July 11, 2016, 11:05:53 AM »
7 months ago me, my wife and my father and mother, all got f/red. We closed all our cards. recently we all applied for deltas. My wife and father got approved, me and my mother had our apps cancelled, and they said we're getting letters for 4506Ts.

Is there a method to this madness?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7076 on: July 11, 2016, 11:08:17 AM »
7 months ago me, my wife and my father and mother, all got f/red. We closed all our cards. recently we all applied for deltas. My wife and father got approved, me and my mother had our apps cancelled, and they said we're getting letters for 4506Ts.

Is there a method to this madness?

In short: No
But your wife and father may get immediately FR'd again when they start using their cards
Don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7077 on: July 11, 2016, 03:06:00 PM »
Help!
Last week charged on a biz amex 50k, usually do about 20k / month. Message said suspended until pay down to about 20k.

Today personal cards are suspended....


If I pay the business one down should that help to drop the whole thing? Is this just a regular financial review at this point?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7078 on: July 11, 2016, 06:20:30 PM »
Help!
Last week charged on a biz amex 50k, usually do about 20k / month. Message said suspended until pay down to about 20k.

Today personal cards are suspended....


If I pay the business one down should that help to drop the whole thing? Is this just a regular financial review at this point?
That's not a normal FR . I've never heard or seen this kind of Case but if it's relying you to pay down then that's what they want apparently and the suspension will be lifted on all cards
 A recent one I saw was similar in that amex does profile accounts so when accounts spend alot out of usual patern they will freeze till paid

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7079 on: July 11, 2016, 06:29:39 PM »
Help!
Last week charged on a biz amex 50k, usually do about 20k / month. Message said suspended until pay down to about 20k.

Today personal cards are suspended....


If I pay the business one down should that help to drop the whole thing? Is this just a regular financial review at this point?
It's not an FR. You just have to pay it down, and you should be good to go. (You're lucky, they often make you pay it in full.)
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
JTZ