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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7260 on: September 26, 2016, 11:27:43 PM »
After closing down the account is there a bigger chance at getting f/red again and would it make sense to wait(to apply) until after they would have closed the f/r meaning 2 weeks or just in right ahead with application also is it better to apply for only one card or i  can even do a 3bm 

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7261 on: September 26, 2016, 11:32:08 PM »
After closing down the account is there a bigger chance at getting f/red again and would it make sense to wait(to apply) until after they would have closed the f/r meaning 2 weeks or just in right ahead with application also is it better to apply for only one card or i  can even do a 3bm
Seems to me you are misinformed about how this works..

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7262 on: September 26, 2016, 11:40:14 PM »
Meaning

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7263 on: September 26, 2016, 11:49:05 PM »
Meaning
When exactly do you plan on applying for new cards?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7264 on: September 26, 2016, 11:54:31 PM »
After i closed all my cards due to the f/r

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7265 on: September 26, 2016, 11:59:30 PM »
After i closed all my cards due to the f/r
Good luck

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7266 on: September 27, 2016, 12:00:29 AM »
Why don't you check up thread and search for what lz was looking for earlier...TimT gave the suggested keywords

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7267 on: September 27, 2016, 11:51:59 AM »
After i closed all my cards due to the f/r
Give it a few months.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7268 on: September 27, 2016, 07:46:41 PM »
Is trying to reopen the same card that i closed asking for trouble

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7269 on: September 27, 2016, 07:50:45 PM »
Is trying to reopen the same card that i closed asking for trouble
Reinstating?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7270 on: September 27, 2016, 10:50:13 PM »
Yeah

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7271 on: September 27, 2016, 10:54:37 PM »
Yeah
Can't reinstate a card closed during F/R.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7272 on: September 27, 2016, 11:23:34 PM »
Can't reinstate a card closed during F/R.
even if i told them to close it?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7273 on: September 27, 2016, 11:25:30 PM »
even if i told them to close it?
U don't seem to get it. When u go under fr u r there because they consider u a credit risk. Until u pass it, thereby answering why ur not a credit risk, they won't accept u for a cc for at least 6 months!

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7274 on: September 27, 2016, 11:42:23 PM »
U don't seem to get it. When u go under fr u r there because they consider u a credit risk. Until u pass it, thereby answering why ur not a credit risk, they won't accept u for a cc for at least 6 months!
I believe there are DPs to the contrary.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7275 on: September 27, 2016, 11:44:20 PM »
I believe there are DPs to the contrary.
Those DP's are out of the norm. This guy apparently thinks that by shutting his cards instead of them shutting it, he can now reopen

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7276 on: September 27, 2016, 11:45:23 PM »
I believe there are DPs to the contrary.
There are, but not many, and decent chance to be f/r'd again.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7277 on: September 27, 2016, 11:58:36 PM »
Those DP's are out of the norm. This guy apparently thinks that by shutting his cards instead of them shutting it, he can now reopen
There are, but not many, and decent chance to be f/r'd again.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7278 on: September 28, 2016, 12:00:20 AM »
Just to clarify the reason that ppl wait ~6 months is to try and avoid getting hit with an f/r immediately after getting approved. You can apply and very likely get accepted for another cc the next day, only problem is there's a huge chance of immediately getting hit again. Closing your cards does not circumvent amex's need to see your financials . After ~6 months (can be less can be more) there are reports of ppl who closed down their cards instead of supplying the info that Amex needed getting approved "without immediately getting f/red again" that is the key, getting accepted is the easy part.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7279 on: September 28, 2016, 12:01:58 AM »
Search "approved" or "closed cards approved"
I would advise you to take TimT's advice and start looking for data points as to when ppl applied and didn't get immediately hit with a f/r