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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7340 on: November 16, 2016, 08:54:31 AM »
then you will most probably be flagged again when you apply. if you got something, anything to show then you should be fine, once you pass its usually smooth from then on IME
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7341 on: November 16, 2016, 09:14:12 AM »
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Theres a lot in that post.  You gotta be more specific  ;D

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7342 on: November 16, 2016, 09:32:23 AM »
Theres a lot in that post.  You gotta be more specific  ;D
The first sentence.
I waited 6 months and got auto approved.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7343 on: November 16, 2016, 10:03:01 AM »
The first sentence.
I waited 6 months and got auto approved.
Most probably, and always are two very different things.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7344 on: November 16, 2016, 10:49:51 AM »
Most probably, and always are two very different things.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7345 on: November 16, 2016, 07:29:49 PM »
DP: I got FR'ed 4 months ago, and passed with bank statements, although they slashed my credit. Today I got approved for Spg business with a 25k line of credit

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7346 on: November 16, 2016, 07:44:44 PM »
If you got a FR, but didn't complete it, then your account is still flagged.
Is this absolute? Any divergent DPs? Thanks.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7347 on: November 16, 2016, 08:15:25 PM »
Is this absolute? Any divergent DPs? Thanks.
I waited 6 months and got auto approved.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7348 on: November 16, 2016, 08:39:43 PM »
I waited 6 months and got auto approved.
Was that in a situation that you canceled the cards, or you completed the FR?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7349 on: November 16, 2016, 11:14:08 PM »
Was that in a situation that you canceled the cards, or you completed the FR?
I canceled the cards.
At the time I understood from this thread, that if you cancel before they close your account, you can apply again in around 6 months with no issues.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7350 on: November 16, 2016, 11:16:57 PM »
I canceled the cards.
At the time I understood from this thread, that if you cancel before they close your account, you can apply again in around 6 months with no issues.
Great. Thank you!

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7351 on: November 16, 2016, 11:18:27 PM »
Great. Thank you!
One DP is not conclusive, YMMV
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7352 on: November 16, 2016, 11:25:09 PM »
One DP is not conclusive, YMMV
Read number 5 in the wiki and the link to the ddms article.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7353 on: November 16, 2016, 11:28:41 PM »
Read number 5 in the wiki and the link to the ddms article.
I don't understand. That's if Amex closes it. We were discussing if I close it.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7354 on: November 17, 2016, 01:45:12 AM »
I don't understand. That's if Amex closes it. We were discussing if I close it.
מכלל הן אתה שומע לאו.

Read the end of dans article, "Since you pre-emotively closed your accounts, just wait a few months and then you can apply all over again".

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7355 on: November 17, 2016, 02:01:31 AM »
מכלל הן אתה שומע לאו.

Read the end of dans article, "Since you pre-emotively closed your accounts, just wait a few months and then you can apply all over again".
You can apply but it doesn't mean you'll get approved without showing proof of income.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7356 on: November 17, 2016, 07:43:22 AM »
מכלל הן אתה שומע לאו. ורוב פאמים גם להפך .

כלל גדול !!
שקוייך! !

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7357 on: November 18, 2016, 01:53:36 PM »
You can apply but it doesn't mean you'll get approved without showing proof of income.
But isn't the whole reason to wait 6 months so you don't have to show proof of income?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7358 on: November 18, 2016, 01:58:21 PM »
But isn't the whole reason to wait 6 months so you don't have to show proof of income?
No, it's to get approved at all.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7359 on: November 23, 2016, 03:00:55 PM »
I used most of the CL on an SPG biz card this month twice (paying it twice), and then used it a third time. I'd rather pay it now (before the statement closes), for credit utilization reasons, but I'm worried about FR. Or, perhaps not paying it (and having a higher credit util.) is a bigger FR risk. What do you suggest? Thanks.