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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3560 on: January 19, 2015, 01:13:43 PM »
Thinking about trying a 3x CLI.  I have a ED with 10k,  a Blue MR with 8k and Delta Gold with 8k.

I live in Israel, so I don't really have much use for a bigger CL on any of these cards.

Reasons to/not to?
Having more than 25K on 1 card or 75K in general with AMEX is a trigger for F/R. (Google it. On myfico.com you can see many people asking for CLI's to $24,500)
Also, I don't know what income you reported to AMEX, but it shouldn't be to high in relation to that.(Maybe someone could give some references as to the recommended income/CL ratio?)
Too high CL's could also cause and A/A with Chase, even if your high CL's are NOT from Chase.

With 26K available credit, I don't see anything you have to gain by this.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3561 on: January 19, 2015, 01:15:27 PM »
Now can i resume this activity? (I remember somewhere seeing that passing a F/R is a good thing, but maybe i'm thinking about a Chase AA?)
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3562 on: January 19, 2015, 01:21:57 PM »

Put the pedal to the metal.
And if you crash, you'll survive like you survived the first time... (Assuming there's no big income changes)

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3563 on: January 19, 2015, 04:41:13 PM »
Having more than 25K on 1 card or 75K in general with AMEX is a trigger for F/R. (Google it. On myfico.com you can see many people asking for CLI's to $24,500)
Also, I don't know what income you reported to AMEX, but it shouldn't be to high in relation to that.(Maybe someone could give some references as to the recommended income/CL ratio?)
Too high CL's could also cause and A/A with Chase, even if your high CL's are NOT from Chase.

With 26K available credit, I don't see anything you have to gain by this.
+1 No reason to.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3564 on: January 19, 2015, 05:07:43 PM »
Put the pedal to the metal.
And if you crash, you'll survive like you survived the first time... (Assuming there's no big income changes)

Can they bounce me for too many Target purchases?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3565 on: February 03, 2015, 08:43:12 AM »
Just tried to load redbird was declined for fraud. Called in and took away the fraud problem, but now still showing the fraud alert and charges are being declined. Any experience with such a thing? Is it F/R? I don't have the dreaded your charging privileges are suspended , just a fraud alert.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3566 on: February 03, 2015, 08:53:24 AM »
Just tried to load redbird was declined for fraud. Called in and took away the fraud problem, but now still showing the fraud alert and charges are being declined. Any experience with such a thing? Is it F/R? I don't have the dreaded your charging privileges are suspended , just a fraud alert.
At Target or elsewhere?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3567 on: February 03, 2015, 08:53:56 AM »
At Target or elsewhere?
where else can you load redbird?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3568 on: February 03, 2015, 08:55:05 AM »
where else can you load redbird?
I'm asking if his card is being declined for general charges or only for loading RC.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3569 on: February 03, 2015, 10:23:56 AM »
Just tried to load redbird was declined for fraud. Called in and took away the fraud problem, but now still showing the fraud alert and charges are being declined. Any experience with such a thing? Is it F/R? I don't have the dreaded your charging privileges are suspended , just a fraud alert.
a new card right? PUTPAC, you might have to do it twice. Some reps dont realize that its not a regular fraud alert.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3570 on: February 03, 2015, 10:39:50 AM »
Just tried to load redbird was declined for fraud. Called in and took away the fraud problem, but now still showing the fraud alert and charges are being declined. Any experience with such a thing? Is it F/R? I don't have the dreaded your charging privileges are suspended , just a fraud alert.
Which bank?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3571 on: February 03, 2015, 11:34:14 AM »
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3572 on: February 03, 2015, 11:39:47 AM »
a new card right? PUTPAC, you might have to do it twice. Some reps dont realize that its not a regular fraud alert.
I had to call in a couple of times without using a new card.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3573 on: February 03, 2015, 11:40:55 AM »
I had to call in a couple of times without using a new card.
I'm not saying its not possible, its just very likely with a new card.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3574 on: February 03, 2015, 11:50:47 AM »
Which bank?
was an Amex. Was working elsewhere but after being declined at target now it's not being approved anywhere else. Why would it help to call twice? I didn't understand. Thanks for all the responses.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3575 on: February 03, 2015, 11:54:47 AM »
was an Amex. Was working elsewhere but after being declined at target now it's not being approved anywhere else. Why would it help to call twice? I didn't understand. Thanks for all the responses.
In my case, it seemed like the first rep I spoke to didn't remove the alert correctly or something like that.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3576 on: February 03, 2015, 11:57:54 AM »
was an Amex. Was working elsewhere but after being declined at target now it's not being approved anywhere else. Why would it help to call twice? I didn't understand. Thanks for all the responses.
Well if it is still not working after the first call, then your only choice is a second call. When you log in to your amex account online is there a message  saying your accounts are suspended or something like that? If there is not then it is just fraud, not FR>
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3577 on: February 03, 2015, 12:32:25 PM »
Well if it is still not working after the first call, then your only choice is a second call. When you log in to your amex account online is there a message  saying your accounts are suspended or something like that? If there is not then it is just fraud, not FR>
I hear. Seems like fraud, will call again.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3578 on: February 04, 2015, 06:42:50 AM »
In my case, it seemed like the first rep I spoke to didn't remove the alert correctly or something like that.
+1 exactly DROPR
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3579 on: February 04, 2015, 06:48:34 AM »
Can they bounce me for too many Target purchases?
They can do anything they want but I don't see this happening.
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