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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7300 on: November 02, 2016, 09:54:59 AM »
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7301 on: November 02, 2016, 07:15:59 PM »
Also this f/t thread claims you can transfer points out of an fr/d account for 90 days over the phone only.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-express-membership-rewards/1305987-amex-financial-review-unique-situation.html
Any data on this?
The T&C's seem to indicate otherwise.

If we cancel your Linked Card Account for any of the following reasons, you’ll forfeit all points in your program account except as noted:
  • If we cancel your Linked Card Account due to inactivity, you have 90 days to use points in your program account before they are forfeited.
  • If we cancel your Linked Card Account in the event of your death, your executor or personal representative may request to use the points in your program account in a one-time redemption by calling us.
  • If we cancel your Linked Card Account by accident, points in your program account will not be forfeited.
If we cancel your Linked Card Account for any other reason (including bankruptcy or insolvency), you’ll forfeit all points in your program account. If we reinstate the Linked Card Account within one year, these forfeited points will be returned to your program account.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7302 on: November 09, 2016, 12:21:29 PM »
i got FRed and my cards cancelled by amex, if i become a AU on someone elses amex account will that trigger their account to get FRed also?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7303 on: November 09, 2016, 12:32:09 PM »
i got FRed and my cards cancelled by amex, if i become a AU on someone elses amex account will that trigger their account to get FRed also?
Possibly, but why don't u just make an AU and try not to link yourself. For example, use a different address, make up a date of birth, and tell them you will give them the SSN a different time

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7304 on: November 11, 2016, 12:56:58 AM »
On this topic I want to open amex business credit cards ( planning on spending a lot ) I'm worried about getting a Financial review. I live with my parents and I'm 19 and don't have an income.  In the event of an FR would amex accept my fathers tax returns to keep my cards open?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7305 on: November 11, 2016, 02:06:06 AM »
On this topic I want to open amex business credit cards ( planning on spending a lot ) I'm worried about getting a Financial review. I live with my parents and I'm 19 and don't have an income.  In the event of an FR would amex accept my fathers tax returns to keep my cards open?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7306 on: November 11, 2016, 07:17:45 AM »
Doesn't it work with household income ?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7307 on: November 11, 2016, 07:22:19 AM »
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7308 on: November 11, 2016, 09:04:18 AM »
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7309 on: November 11, 2016, 11:46:16 AM »
Doesn't it work with household income ?
No. But people have survived with just bank statements. YMMV. Household income only counts on your application, not for FR

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7310 on: November 11, 2016, 12:37:25 PM »
No. But people have survived with just bank statements. YMMV.
+.5 I survived one with bank account statements and paystubs, my credit got slashed but nothing was closed.
Household income only counts on your application, not for FR
You can only count household income on the app if you're over 21.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7311 on: November 12, 2016, 09:44:50 PM »
Thank you  :D

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7312 on: November 14, 2016, 06:17:09 AM »
Hey all,
I got f/r'd about 15 month ago. I'm wondering if I should give it a go now opening an amex card. From what i understand you should expect to wait 18-24 months to get accepted without any issues, although there have been reports of even waiting only a year. My question is if i were to retry now would I reset the clock on waiting so I would have to wait another 18-24 months if they still ask for returns?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7313 on: November 14, 2016, 08:47:14 AM »
Hey all,
I got f/r'd about 15 month ago. I'm wondering if I should give it a go now opening an amex card. From what i understand you should expect to wait 18-24 months to get accepted without any issues, although there have been reports of even waiting only a year. My question is if i were to retry now would I reset the clock on waiting so I would have to wait another 18-24 months if they still ask for returns?
18-24 months? Why wait so long? There are reports of 6 maybe less.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7314 on: November 14, 2016, 08:51:23 AM »
18-24 months? Why wait so long? There are reports of 6 maybe less.
If it doesn't work, will it reset the clock?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7315 on: November 14, 2016, 10:12:39 AM »
There's no clock.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7316 on: November 14, 2016, 12:55:47 PM »
Hey all,
I got f/r'd about 15 month ago. I'm wondering if I should give it a go now opening an amex card. From what i understand you should expect to wait 18-24 months to get accepted without any issues, although there have been reports of even waiting only a year. My question is if i were to retry now would I reset the clock on waiting so I would have to wait another 18-24 months if they still ask for returns?
If you got a FR, but didn't complete it, then your account is still flagged. I haven't seen any datapoints of out-waiting a FR, but would guess it would be 7+ years.
If you were cleared, then there is no reason to wait.
It's best to be honest and cooperate.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7317 on: November 14, 2016, 01:36:41 PM »


Hey all,
I got f/r'd about 15 month ago.
.........

It all depends on what your full story was. Did you fail
 Did you get shut down . Did u shut it down . Etc. ... tell more

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7318 on: November 14, 2016, 03:08:22 PM »
I got notices in the mail that Amex needs SSNs for several cards, so I called, and my call went to the FR dept. I asked if I am under FR, and she said yes, but I have full access to my cards online. What's going on here?
Also, is it better to call back and provide the SSNs, or to ignore it? (I didn't have them when I called...)
Thanks.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #7319 on: November 14, 2016, 03:13:51 PM »
I got notices in the mail that Amex needs SSNs for several cards, so I called, and my call went to the FR dept. I asked if I am under FR, and she said yes, but I have full access to my cards online. What's going on here?
Also, is it better to call back and provide the SSNs, or to ignore it? (I didn't have them when I called...)
Thanks.
i ignore them