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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2340 on: May 17, 2013, 12:10:31 PM »
I got a call from Amex that they want to check bussiness bank accounts, because I swiped on my bussiness gold card over $10,000.
Attached is the form I got from them to fill out.
can anybody help me out with this.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2341 on: May 17, 2013, 12:18:38 PM »
I got a call from Amex that they want to check bussiness bank accounts, because I swiped on my bussiness gold card over $10,000.
Attached is the form I got from them to fill out.
can anybody help me out with this.
Sam's friend got the same letter http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg493879#msg493879
First, verify that it is real. Call the number on the back of your card and see if they can verify that they sent it to you and all the info is accurate (fax, name etc). If they can then fill it out.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2342 on: May 17, 2013, 12:22:19 PM »
Yes, I spoke to them they stoped all charging on my card.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2343 on: May 17, 2013, 12:30:30 PM »
Yes, I spoke to them they stoped all charging on my card.
So fill it out and send it in. If you don't have a biz account then you might want to just close the card so they don't close it. That's what i did.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2344 on: May 18, 2013, 09:22:35 PM »
Just got 2 accounts closed from amex for not meeting the time frame for the f/r ...  ( I do have the info avail now) if i reapply will i automatically get denied ?
Should I wait ?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2345 on: May 18, 2013, 10:37:49 PM »
I don't have a biz checking acc. If I use my personal checking acc as the payment source for my AMEX Biz Gold, will it raise a red flag?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2346 on: May 19, 2013, 04:07:20 AM »
I don't have a biz checking acc. If I use my personal checking acc as the payment source for my AMEX Biz Gold, will it raise a red flag?
Never had a biz bank account and have been through many Amex biz cards.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2347 on: May 19, 2013, 05:19:31 AM »
Never had a biz bank account and have been through many Amex biz cards.

But have those cards ever been FRed?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2348 on: May 19, 2013, 05:22:29 AM »
But have those cards ever been FRed?
No.
I don't recall anyone reporting such activity as an FR risk.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2349 on: May 19, 2013, 06:26:31 AM »
No.
I don't recall anyone reporting such activity as an FR risk.

Of course it's not a risk - after all, AFAIK Amex can't tell from just a bank account number whether it is business or personal. The question is, once someone is being FRed already, and they ask to see bank statements, will they hold it against him that it's a personal account?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2350 on: May 19, 2013, 06:41:53 AM »
Of course it's not a risk - after all, AFAIK Amex can't tell from just a bank account number whether it is business or personal. The question is, once someone is being FRed already, and they ask to see bank statements, will they hold it against him that it's a personal account?
i think the statement days are over , is 4506t only

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2351 on: May 19, 2013, 10:04:14 AM »
Of course it's not a risk - after all, AFAIK Amex can't tell from just a bank account number whether it is business or personal. The question is, once someone is being FRed already, and they ask to see bank statements, will they hold it against him that it's a personal account?
The question was "will it raise a red flag?," not will it impede your ability to pass an FR (FR = red flag already raised).
You are probably right though about Amex not being able to tell what type of account it is, i just couldn't write that with certitude.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2352 on: May 19, 2013, 01:35:42 PM »
Of course it's not a risk - after all, AFAIK Amex can't tell from just a bank account number whether it is business or personal. The question is, once someone is being FRed already, and they ask to see bank statements, will they hold it against him that it's a personal account?
Well, when i linked my bank acc, they did ask if it is a biz acc or personal acc.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2353 on: May 19, 2013, 01:41:54 PM »
i think the statement days are over , is 4506t only
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2354 on: May 19, 2013, 01:56:37 PM »
Well, when i linked my bank acc, they did ask if it is a biz acc or personal acc.

Just because they ask, that doesn't mean they can tell the difference. In fact, if they could, they wouldn't need to ask, would they? ;)

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2355 on: May 19, 2013, 02:01:29 PM »
Just because they ask, that doesn't mean they can tell the difference. In fact, if they could, they wouldn't need to ask, would they? ;)

True but it's weird a red error showed up basically asking to confirm that it was indeed a personal checking account.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2356 on: May 19, 2013, 04:05:44 PM »
Is making many small purchases of a personal nature greater risk for an FR. I.e. groceries, gas, pizza, bakery etc.?


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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2357 on: May 19, 2013, 04:08:23 PM »
Is making many small purchases of a personal nature greater risk for an FR. I.e. groceries, gas, pizza, bakery etc.?

No.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2358 on: May 19, 2013, 05:19:49 PM »
Is making many small purchases of a personal nature greater risk for an FR. I.e. groceries, gas, pizza, bakery etc.?
imho anything small is fine even ap etc

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2359 on: May 19, 2013, 05:27:11 PM »
imho anything small is fine even ap etc
how much is small?