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Court Orders Baby's Death
« on: June 29, 2017, 10:04:45 AM »

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 10:36:08 AM »
Court ordered murder. Coming soon to a hospital near you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4644268/amp/Charlie-Gard-s-parents-lose-final-appeal.html

I would think this makes for a very strong case that dina dmalchusa dina does not apply in Europe.

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 10:47:56 AM »
I would think this makes for a very strong case that dina dmalchusa dina does not apply in Europe.

Or that they murdered 6 million of us.  Also that

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 10:51:50 AM »
I don't get it. Why exactly can't they hire their own doctor and air ambulance and take their child to the US with the money they raised?
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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 11:17:04 AM »
Or that they murdered 6 million of us.  Also that

One can argue that they have reformed and today their mishpat is just.  This story, unless something isn't been reported that changes it, shows that it is not.

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 01:08:54 PM »
I don't get it. Why exactly can't they hire their own doctor and air ambulance and take their child to the US with the money they raised?

Hospital/government won't let.

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2017, 01:09:54 PM »
Hospital/government won't let.
Under what basis? Don't parents have the right to take their child to another doctor?
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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2017, 01:15:49 PM »
Under what basis? Don't parents have the right to take their child to another doctor?
Wow. It appears not. It will cause undue harm to the baby because there isn't a realistic chance of survival. What utter nonsense!

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2017, 01:16:02 PM »
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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2017, 01:22:26 PM »
The child is terminally ill. Treatment in US will do exactly what?
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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2017, 01:25:56 PM »
Unbelievable.

Talk about death panels

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2017, 01:26:51 PM »
The child is terminally ill. Treatment in US will do exactly what?
Save his life
Maybe heal his condition

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2017, 01:27:11 PM »
The child is terminally ill. Treatment in US will do exactly what?
Doctors in the US are prepared to try a treatment and obviously believe there is a chance to make the illness less terminal. For a doctor or judge to deny such an option to the parents of  a child is either the epitome of arrogance or intentional evilness. A system of law which can allow such a travesty loses all legitimacy in my eyes.

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2017, 01:27:52 PM »
The child is terminally ill. Treatment in US will do exactly what?
not a reason to kill s/o. plus, they think theres a chance of curing it
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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2017, 01:28:31 PM »
The child is terminally ill. Treatment in US will do exactly what?
What defines "terminally ill"? The doctors in Europe came to the conclusion that there's no way they can save him, so they determined that he's terminally ill. There are other doctors in the US that claim that they might be able to help, and thus the child isn't "terminally ill" (yet) according to their professional opinion.
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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2017, 01:28:55 PM »
Brings to mind כל שנעשה רחמן על האכזרים, לסוף נעשה אכזר על רחמנים.

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2017, 01:42:09 PM »
this is so sad an unbelievable. :-[
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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2017, 02:11:35 PM »
The child is terminally ill. Treatment in US will do exactly what?

This question is completely irrelevant. It should not be up to the government to decide when someone should die.

But to answer anyways, treatment may extend his life. Every moment of life is inherently valuable.

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2017, 02:12:42 PM »
Can someone explain why they care if he goes to America?

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Re: Court Orders Baby's Death
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2017, 02:14:56 PM »
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