Court Orders Baby's Death

[TimT]

There are many situations where a DNR would be appropriate and for all I know this may have been one of them.

It wasn’t

[Mordyk]

This is not true halachikly. There are many situations where a DNR would be appropriate and for all I know this may have been one of them. But as the Mishna in Shabbos says "one who closes the eyes of a dying person is a murderer", any action that speeds up death is murder. The fact that a court is willing murder a child against the parents will is pure evil.

this was a planned unplugging. how was this a DNR?

[UKinNYS]

There is so much pent-up rage about this now. I hope something good comes out of it in the long run.

There is an effort to pass what's termed 'Alta's Law' which I understand returns some right to parents... halevai..

[CountValentine]

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As long as a persons can life can be extended everyone must do everything in their power to keep them alive
therefore when someone takes measures that can shorten a persons life or is detrimental to their health it is nothing short of murder

I assume this is based on your religious beliefs and I respect that. Other religions believe differently but more important is the laws we live by.

[yitzgar]

This week's parasha is sedom and Amora. They also clothed their evil in supposed righteousness

[Dawie]

There is an effort to pass what's termed 'Alta's Law' which I understand returns some right to parents... halevai..

and Charlies Law (Charlie Gard)...
Alfies Law  (Alfie Evans )...

Halevai is right, but....

[avromie7]

this was a planned unplugging. how was this a DNR?

It's not. I was responding to this

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As long as a persons can life can be extended everyone must do everything in their power to keep them alive
therefore when someone takes measures that can shorten a persons life or is detrimental to their health it is nothing short of murder

[LNS]

This is not true halachikly. There are many situations where a DNR would be appropriate and for all I know this may have been one of them. But as the Mishna in Shabbos says "one who closes the eyes of a dying person is a murderer", any action that speeds up death is murder. The fact that a court is willing murder a child against the parents will is pure evil.

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As long as a persons can life can be extended everyone must do everything in their power to keep them alive
therefore when someone takes measures that can shorten a persons life or is detrimental to their health it is nothing short of murder

[LNS]

I assume this is based on your religious beliefs and I respect that. Other religions believe differently but more important is the laws we live by.

can you tell me what the other beliefs are based on ?
meaning is it because they don't think they can enjoy life anymore or can accomplish things?
genuinely curious as to what reasoning behind such an action would be from a religious stand point

[aygart]

I presume he was taking issue with the first line.

[th0306]

What would it take to mount a Yad L'achim style operation here?

Anyone know why they did not go this route?

[LNS]

I presume he was taking issue with the first line.

correct but a DNR has zero relation to this story
and there aren't many situations where one is permissible but your right i should clarify that there are times when a DNR would be allowed

[Kobe Bryant]

BD”E

[Dawie]

Anyone know why they did not go this route?

and disconnect from all the machines?

[neveryou]

I assume this is based on your religious beliefs and I respect that. Other religions believe differently but more important is the laws we live by.

So basically its law over morals, that's a slippery slope

[m65]

What would it take to mount a Yad L'achim style operation here?

with all due respect to yad l'achim, i think it wouldve taken more like an iranian nuclear archive style operation
unless im grossly overestimating the british

[gozalim]

What would it take to mount a Yad L'achim style operation here?

why do I suspect that's what the 'let her die at home' request was all about?

[TimT]

So basically its law over morals, that's a slippery slope

Which law are we even referring to here ?

[CountValentine]

So basically its law over morals, that's a slippery slope

No it is laws we live by over ones religious beliefs.
Not talking about this case. Many believe removing life support from a brain dead person is the moral thing to do.

[CountValentine]

can you tell me what the other beliefs are based on ?
meaning is it because they don't think they can enjoy life anymore or can accomplish things?
genuinely curious as to what reasoning behind such an action would be from a religious stand point

There is no easy answer.
https://classroom.synonym.com/catholic-beliefs-about-withdrawing-life-support-12087605.html