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Star Alliance

Air Canada:                          No/1 stop + 1 stop OR 1 OJ
ANA:                                     NA/4 Stop (max 1 per city) + 1 OJ
Asiana:                                 ??/4 stopovers + 1 OJ
Miles & More (LH,LX,OS,+:)   Yes/1 each way, not in origin region + 2 OJs
Singapore:                            Yes/??
Turkish Airlines:                    ??/??
United:                                  No*/1 stop + 2 OJ


OneWorld

American Airlines:                 NA/No
US Airways:                          NA/1 stop OR 1 OJ
British Airways:                     Yes/Yes but doesn't matter on price, since they charge distance based **
LAN:                                       ??/??
Qantas:                                 Yes/Yes but doesn't matter on price, since they charge distance based **
Royal Jordanian:                    ??/??

Sky Team

Alitalia:                                    ??/??
Air France/ KLM (Flying Blue)   No/1 stop
Delta:                                      No/1 stop + OJ

Other

Elal:                                          ??/??
Emirates:                                  ??/??
Etihad:                                      ??/??
JetAirways:                               ??/??
Virgin:                                       ??/??
Alaskan:                                    Yes/OJ or stop



p.s.
NA: Program doesn't allow oneway bookings
No: Program allows oneways, but doesn't allow a stopover on a oneway
Yes: Stopovers allowed on oneway bookings

* It is technically not allowed, but with enough HUCA and persistance it can be accomplished. YMMV.
** any stopover option would need to be done over the phone.
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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #220 on: January 21, 2013, 06:46:18 PM »
i'm looking at a tlv-zrh (stop)- lhr (stop)- cph (destination) - zrh-tlv trip     

i think the most efficient way to do it is use ua to book tlv-zrh(stop)-lhr oj cph-zrh-tlv for 55k, and then look for avios/cash for the lhr-cph leg.     
does anyone have any better ideas?
Aeroplan allows 2 stopovers.
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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #221 on: January 21, 2013, 07:22:19 PM »
Aeroplan allows 2 stopovers.
but it's an extra 20k miles + fuel surcharges.    for $180 i can buy the ow lhr-cph

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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #222 on: January 21, 2013, 07:26:09 PM »
but it's an extra 20k miles + fuel surcharges.    for $180 i can buy the ow lhr-cph
No surcharges on that route, you also save the $75 close in.
Admittedly UA will prob miss some of the taxes so you'll save that
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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #223 on: March 12, 2013, 01:42:05 PM »
Looking to book JFK-SJU with AA. Is SJU considered international for the purposes of allowing a stopover?

 

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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #224 on: March 12, 2013, 04:23:31 PM »
Looking to book JFK-SJU with AA. Is SJU considered international for the purposes of allowing a stopover?

SJU is in North America.

Are you planning on traveling to MAD (or LGW before 3/29/13) from SJU? (Those are the only OW destinations from SJU AFAIK.)
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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #225 on: March 12, 2013, 07:34:06 PM »
SJU is in North America.

Are you planning on traveling to MAD (or LGW before 3/29/13) from SJU? (Those are the only OW destinations from SJU AFAIK.)

Wasn't planning on it. What could be the potential routing?

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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #226 on: March 12, 2013, 08:21:46 PM »
Wasn't planning on it. What could be the potential routing?
Something like this

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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #227 on: March 12, 2013, 09:20:24 PM »
Ah, that would work, too.

Forgot one can fly from NA to SA and not just EU ;)
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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #228 on: March 12, 2013, 09:24:09 PM »
Ah, that would work, too.

Forgot one can fly from NA to SA and not just EU ;)
They don't have any more flights direct from SJU to EU, so this his only SO choice.

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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #229 on: March 12, 2013, 09:28:48 PM »
They don't have any more flights direct from SJU to EU, so this his only SO choice.

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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #230 on: March 12, 2013, 09:30:31 PM »
Wasn't planning on it. What could be the potential routing?

So then what was your plan? You're stopping over en route to... where?
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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #231 on: March 12, 2013, 09:36:40 PM »
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IB flies SJU-MAD, and BA flies SJU-LGW until 3/29/13.
1)Did you check AA yourself? They might be flying it, but if they don't have availability (saver) it won't help.

2)Even if they had BA, there is YQ so it wouldn't be worth it.

3)BA is not flying that route.

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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #232 on: March 12, 2013, 09:47:32 PM »
How can I check AA for saver availability if I don't know his dates? Besides, lack of saver availability does not preclude MAD as a final destination from SJU, and you said: "They don't have any more flights direct from SJU to EU, so this his only SO choice."

The fact that there is YQ on BA does not preclude LGW as a oneworld destination from SJU.

Incorrect.
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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #233 on: March 12, 2013, 10:07:34 PM »
How can I check AA for saver availability if I don't know his dates? Besides, lack of saver availability does not preclude MAD as a final destination from SJU, and you said: "They don't have any more flights direct from SJU to EU, so this his only SO choice."

The fact that there is YQ on BA does not preclude LGW as a oneworld destination from SJU.

Incorrect.
1)If you said they are discontinuing the flights by 3/29/13, then there is only a certain amount of time (roughly 2 and half weeks) which he can fly and they don't have availability from now till then.

2)I checked SJU and the only OW carriers that fly from there are BA(LGW) I can't find any flights right now whether an award or revenue (could be they stopped it early), AA(CCS) Which I found, IB(MAD) Which there is no availability.

3)I can't find any fare from SJU - LGW, unless you know something that I don't.......   

ETA: What does this mean

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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #234 on: March 12, 2013, 10:34:45 PM »
You keep on assuming I was checking for availability. I'm not his travel agent.

I was merely stating possibilities from SJU on OW, as he asked about SJU being his NA gateway.

As for your picture, that doesn't prove anything except they won't book that route online.
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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #235 on: March 12, 2013, 10:53:46 PM »
You keep on assuming I was checking for availability. I'm not his travel agent.

I was merely stating possibilities from SJU on OW, as he asked about SJU being his NA gateway.

As for your picture, that doesn't prove anything except they won't book that route online.
I know you're not, but I actually checked for him, which is why I said,
They don't have any more flights direct from SJU to EU, so this his only SO choice.
That's why I wanted to why you wrote
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IB flies SJU-MAD, and BA flies SJU-LGW until 3/29/13.
You were saying "in general" and I was talking about his specific case.

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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #236 on: March 12, 2013, 11:01:59 PM »
Glad we cleared that up.

Tho, FTR, your below statement is, at best, ambiguous:

They don't have any more flights direct from SJU to EU, so this his only SO choice.

(still not sure what "this his only SO choice" means...)
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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #237 on: March 12, 2013, 11:07:55 PM »
Glad we cleared that up.

Tho, FTR, your below statement is, at best, ambiguous:

(still not sure what "this his only SO choice" means...)
They(AA) don't have any more flights(Saver availability) direct from SJU to EU, so this his only SO(Stop Over) choice(If he wants to go to SJU via AAdvantage miles, he will not be able to make SJU his NA gateway city to make his destination in EU.
It could have been a bit clearer, sorry.

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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #238 on: March 12, 2013, 11:13:45 PM »
No worries.

Also, availability is dynamic; just because IB/BA hasn't released space as of tonight, doesn't mean "inventory control" won't open up tomorrow or the day after, etc.
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Re: Stopover Rules Master thread
« Reply #239 on: March 12, 2013, 11:21:55 PM »
No worries.

Also, availability is dynamic; just because IB/BA hasn't released space as of tonight, doesn't mean "inventory control" won't open up tomorrow or the day after, etc.
Of course, that's with any award booking.

In this situation, I don't think they are going to open up, since there's only another 2 and half weeks for these routes and there are no flights open.

But I guess you never know.